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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg you know a lot of

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our listeners have wondered why we have

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focused so much on UFOs and related

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mysteries and as Christopher O'Brien

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said on our shop Talk episode just very

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recently we're going to try to talk

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about other subjects such as later today

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you'll hear about near-death experiences

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look at new for what we've done on the

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para cast but we'll get in there but I

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wanted to get into something that was

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said I guess a couple of weeks ago I

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assume this was the episode we did with

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Margie Kay the MUFON assistant director

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for Missouri about the Kansas City UFO

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flap and she was talking about what I

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guess is technically called the

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invisible ships and I'll read a story

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from a publication called the journal in

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Humboldt County California it says have

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you heard of the invisible ships

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phenomenon cited in several new-age

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books and movies it goes like this when

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Captain Cook Columbus Magellan depending

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on the version of the story you're

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hearing arrived with the coast of

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Australia Cuba South America the native

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people completely ignored them

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presumably because huge ships were so

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alien to their experiences that they're

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highly filtered perceptions couldn't

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register what was happening which means

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of course the ships were invisible so

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the mystery being is that true well

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supposedly I've read a couple of

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historical accounts of this and they

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said it's not true it's kind of an urban

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legend that maybe they would interpret

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the ships in accordance with their

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understanding of what things look like

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traveling things but they would

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certainly not be unable to see them

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I think that's an argument that's made

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about UFOs also that what we see is

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colored by our perceptions and

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expectations that could be true but it

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doesn't mean UFOs are invisible does it

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well I've had a number of cases multiple

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witness cases where the majority of the

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described essentially the same thing but

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several couldn't see anything so how do

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you explain now well it doesn't mean

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that these particular incidents

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regarding these early explorations were

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as they are reported in the history

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books which is they saw the ships well

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we don't know unless we're there unless

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we were able to determine through you

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know first-hand accounts there's no way

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we're gonna be able to know for sure

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obviously the knee-jerk conservative

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assumption would be picture the people

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saw the ships that maybe they just

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ignored them hoping that they would go

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away or maybe if we pretend we don't see

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them they won't see us but you know this

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developed into a thread as a result of

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Margie's appearance on the show and and

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people claiming this has been debunked

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and this and that and the other thing it

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hasn't been debunked we will never know

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all I can say is I have been an

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investigator out in the field and I've

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had reports of multiple witnessed

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occurrences that some of the potential

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witnesses were unable to see what

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everybody else saw so in interviewing

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these people they claimed they were not

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able to see what the other people were

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seeing even when it was pointed out to

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them so the human mind is a very

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wondrous organ we don't know everything

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about how it works

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human perception is much more

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complicated than knee-jerk assumptions

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and debunking of second and third hand

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accounts so no unless you're there

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you really can't make a determination

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one way or another

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and certainly historical records would

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be the ones that the Explorers produce

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the ones they created so you're seeing

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these episodes in their eyes not the

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eyes of the people they visited exactly

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Bernal Diaz I think is probably the best

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documentation that we have of this

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Cortes is three ships were off these

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about their affairs and either they were

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ignoring the ships or they couldn't see

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they they were unable to perceive them

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worth I don't claim to be an expert in

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nobody is we weren't there with Cortes

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that's how we're going to find out what

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really happened but this is going to be

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you know long term object for

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interesting discussion especially the

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cases the modern cases where some people

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see something and some people don't and

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we have to think about the sensitivities

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and about the subconscious reactions

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it's very complicated I also say it is

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fascinating it really is I also expect a

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lot of discussion about the episode

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featuring Joseph Farrell which has not

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played yet when we record this episode

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so therefore we don't know how our

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listeners are going to react I do know

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for a fact that a lot of people have

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asked us to get dr. Farrell on the show

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and I'm glad he came he certainly knows

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his stuff I can't say I necessarily

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agree with everything he says but he has

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his stuff down path he knows his

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material and he's willing to answer

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reasonable questions but of course to

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prove everything he says we'll have to

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go back through history look at all the

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historical records and see what really

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might have gone on and see where he

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interpreted things but I am encouraged

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and also impressed by the suggestions

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that at least some of the UFOs in the

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early days a classic UFO era beginning

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in 1947 may have been secret weapons

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usual about that yeah and and one

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subject that I meant to bring up in the

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interview which never did come up what's

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the subject of Foo Fighters

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yes luminous balls reported by pilots

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nearing the latter stages of the war in

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evidence that suggests that these will

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also were some sort of secret weapons by

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luftwaffe or the earner knob and I

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wanted to get into that but we're gonna

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have to have Joseph back on it was a

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fascinating show I can't wait for the

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reaction to it he's a top-notch

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researcher he's written six or seven

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books that examine various aspects of

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this man-made UFO and hidden technology

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question starting in the 20s actually in

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going all the way through the present

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day and fascinating reading I recommend

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his book silent all right Joseph Ferrell

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dr. Farrell will we help me back in the

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future on the power cast to answer more

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questions we book them at the last

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minute didn't get a chance to open up

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the question Bank for your questions do

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have a bit of possibly sad news to

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report I might have mentioned this

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before on the show but I will mention it

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now Jim Mosley the editor of saucers

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smear is currently undergoing treatment

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at a hospital in Key West Florida I'm

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not going to mention the hospital

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because I don't want them to be

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inundated with phone calls and letters

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but he is suffering from cancer he's not

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a well person and we do hope he recovers

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but also understand Jim Mosley is 81

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years old so anything he suffers is

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going to be that much worse but they've

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got really smart doctors working on him

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and we have to hope for the best

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Cadwell Jim Mosley yep let's look into

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another subject I hope not related and I

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hope we don't segue to that but a lot of

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our listeners have asked us to look at

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other things other than just UFOs and we

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phenomena nor have we ever had a show

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that I recall dealing with near-death

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experiences Chris tell us more about our

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guest well our guest has been working

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researching studying and writing about

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nve's as they're called near-death

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experiences since the seventies and

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she's considered one of the premier

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researchers in this field I'm really

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looking forward to having lively

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discussion with her about about this

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particular phenomenon and we gene we

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recently had an interesting article that

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appeared in the mainstream news

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about a doctor who claimed he was gone

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and you know this is a subject I think

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because we're all you know gonna go

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there someday so I think it's gonna be a

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fascinating episode so our guest is PMH

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Atwater if you go over to Wikipedia

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world's most famous experts on

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near-death experiences she has studied

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for many years and has lots of

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fascinating stories to tell and we're

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definitely going to be fascinated with

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her she has some books such as the big

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book of near-death experiences for you

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to check out this is fascinating

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really fascinating stuff with Jeanne and

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saying anything all right okay he has a

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lowered right we're proud to welcome PMH

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Atwater she is someone who is an expert

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as much of an expert as one can be on

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what they call near-death experiences

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dr. Atwater welcome to the show she's

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also happy and pleasant that's good

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we'll change that okay and one of our

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books is the big book of near-death

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experiences story which is my summary

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book summarizes over three decades of

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work uh-huh okay well we'll talk about

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both books through the show but we also

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wanted to understand your expertise and

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how you got involved in this so let me

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get you started at the beginning of all

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the things that one can talk about and

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we've seen near-death experience is

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depicted in movies and TV shows all the

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time right and they all have a similar

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component to them which is kind of like

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you're in this other place with bright

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lights and maybe you'll be called to the

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light but before you are you're awakened

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and all that stuff we'll talk about the

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scenario typical death experience

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scenario but dr. Atwater what attracted

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you to this kind of study I died well

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how long I mean seriously I seriously

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I'd I dream times in three months in

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1977 my first death was January the

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second that was caused by a miscarriage

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and extreme hemorrhaging second bath was

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January 4 that was caused by the first

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the worst case of abiders the specialist

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never heard of let alone seen and a

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dislodge

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thrombosis major thrombosis the third

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death was caused three months later we

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don't know for sure what caused that and

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think it might get a heart attack

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they're just not sure there's no vital

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signs and in these three experiences

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each was different first one was

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relatively short second and third were

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quite long let me ask you briefly before

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you go on yeah as you described what you

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experienced explain how long you were as

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they call clinically dead when you had

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those experiences some number one don't

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really want to go in-depth in describing

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them because that would take over an

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hour experience number one was more or

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less an out-of-body experience

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except it had more features in it than

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most of them do

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I would guess you know who's watching a

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clock you know I would guess maybe

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timeout maybe two minutes maybe three

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felt well a lot longer than that but you

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know I'll give that as a guess the

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second one which is two days later I

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would guess that to be something like

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about 15-20 minutes but again who knows

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I don't know okay that's interesting too

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don't they say that there's going to be

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brain damage if you're dead more than

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four or five minutes but not this a

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signature feature with near-death

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experiences yes they are dead five to 20

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minutes that's normal that's average

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that's typical vital signs no brainwaves

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no heartbeat no pulse nothing's working

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in other words as near as we can tell

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they are a corpse or at least dead some

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of them actually revived in the morgue

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so five to 20 minutes the signature

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feature is that there is little or no

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brain damage in fact brain enhancement

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yes we do get some of them coming back

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with a little bit of brain damage but no

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very few most of them again come back

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knowing more than they did before and

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you especially find this with children

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the jump and intelligence

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it's quite high this is something you

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could actually measure with tests I can

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test with children and certainly IQ test

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with the adults and one of them in fact

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several have had the the IQ tested

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before and after and and the jump was

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you know it's a big one now in a case

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like this the deaths all are caused by

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different purposes different symptoms in

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your case you are a fairly young woman

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at this time right so this is something

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here you had in your 30s but since then

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you've had no repetition of serious

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health problems no repetition that's

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correct no other health problems that's

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incorrect

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a couple of times I had the providers

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return and I had to deal with it but

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that was from a decade's ago I have not

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had to do that okay so the first one you

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have the out of body and out of body

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meaning that you can actually look down

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upon yourself yeah right okay yeah yes

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okay so and you describe how it felt

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did you feel anything or was it just

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something that was visual it was very

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visual I was miscarrying at the time so

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I miss my body look down I didn't know

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it was an out-of-body experience I

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really did not know I knew is I was this

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happened and in my bathroom in my home I

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kept bumping into this into the light

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bub in my case it was a light on in in

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the bathroom it was not some surreal

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light it was the light of my bathroom

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light bulb I kept bumping into it like a

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math drawn to a flame and as a physical

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light bulb ajit physically felt physical

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to me it was physical I felt it

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physically and I couldn't understand why

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the difference in space relations

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suddenly I was looking down at the

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toilet I was looking down at the bathtub

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at the sink and I couldn't understand

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why the sudden

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different and the more thoughts I

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thought the more blobs began to form in

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the air

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sort of like ink blots only fully

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dimensional and I didn't know what they

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were and they confused me and the more I

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thought the more they were and the next

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thing I knew there was and there's some

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other things that happened but really

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the next thing I knew there was an

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audible snap like I like someone like an

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over stretch the rubber band and

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somebody let go of that rubber band and

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smack back into the body I went just

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that fast

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just that flippant entering through the

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top of the head sort of where your soft

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spot is when you're a baby and feeling

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myself pulled back in back clear to my

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toes and having to shrink to fit back

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into the body I was bigger out of the

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body then I was inside the body let me

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ask you here did you see your body when

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you were floating over it okay you saw

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your body yes indeed I did

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Wow I'm going to ask you in the next

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segment also here

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what kind of sense of self you have did

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you feel you had a body or you're some

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kind of amorphous yes quite different

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all right let me just tell listeners

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again PMH Atwater is author of new your

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death experiences the rest of the story

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the big book of near-death experiences

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but before we explore County sure and

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other books on the subject and we're

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going to explore after we explore her

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experiences those of others that she's

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investigated with Jean and Kris you're

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know I won't be standing in a bread line

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trading my freedom for food I'm taking

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control of my future and you're nuts if

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you don't do the same go to eat foods

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erect calm forward-slash Alex to find

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now under 50 bucks remember I can warn

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you but I can't feed you call 800 to 409

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5 633 or in foods direct comm Ford /

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Alex what

560
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you rather prepare six months too early

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or one day too late or oh nine five six

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three three or a foots erect calm for

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slash Alex that's what it sounds like

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when a burglar kicks in the door of a

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dark house that looks like no one is

566
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home don't let your home be the next

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target make it look like someone is home

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watching television with fake TV fake TV

569
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is a small electronic device that makes

570
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the same light as a real television so

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from outside it looks like someone is

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home watching TV fake TV plugs in just

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like a lamp on a timer but is far more

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convincing to burglars fake TV deters

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burglars costs far less than an alarm

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and is highly recommended by numerous

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police departments use it anytime you're

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away from home to order your fake TV for

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617
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about near-death experiences the

618
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experiences that first interested her

619
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because it happened to her

620
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so the first experience happens when you

621
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miscarry

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yeah and supposedly you're briefly dead

623
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for a couple of minutes

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625
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626
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you know I didn't know what had happened

627
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to me

628
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so I made my way back to my bed I had

629
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enough sense to elevate my legs in

630
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pillows stuffed myself with as much as I

631
00:28:02,760 --> 00:27:59,740
could to control the bleeding and then I

632
00:28:05,370 --> 00:28:02,770
I literally went to sleep and to

633
00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:05,380
understand that realize that I'm a cop's

634
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kid I was raised in the police station

635
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outside my bedroom window and I was a

636
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kid was the police gunnery range that's

637
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where they went to fire all their good

638
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you know practice and I never ever heard

639
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a single shot in all the years that they

640
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:23,650
used the field outside my bedroom window

641
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for gunnery practice so that's a sample

642
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of how deeply I sleep I have three

643
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:34,510
children when they would wake up in the

644
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night and and cry it was my husband who

645
00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:39,730
had to wake me up I didn't even hear my

646
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:43,030
own kids so it's like when I go to sleep

647
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:45,190
it's almost like I die or something

648
00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:48,970
anyway it's just I'm gone so I didn't

649
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:51,160
wake up till in the morning and my

650
00:28:56,790 --> 00:28:54,070
oldest daughter I had two daughters home

651
00:28:59,550 --> 00:28:56,800
then my son was gone and my oldest

652
00:29:02,100 --> 00:28:59,560
daughter who was in high school came and

653
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:02,110
jiggled and you know wanted to know did

654
00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:05,530
I would it behoove her to call where I

655
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:07,720
worked and tell them I I was sick I

656
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:10,090
couldn't come in and I remember saying

657
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:13,390
yes and and and both girls leaving for

658
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:16,990
school and I was alone and I was in so

659
00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:20,710
much pain that you know it really would

660
00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:24,990
take somebody who's gone through some

661
00:29:31,139 --> 00:29:30,100
something like this to understand why I

662
00:29:33,869 --> 00:29:31,149
know

663
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:33,879
longer knew who I was I didn't care who

664
00:29:41,159 --> 00:29:37,450
I was all I wanted was a knife that I

665
00:29:43,619 --> 00:29:41,169
could cut off my right leg in oh boy

666
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:43,629
wait a minute from the knee up

667
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:45,450
it was bright the skin was bright red

668
00:29:53,219 --> 00:29:49,450
there was a big huge lump growing out of

669
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:53,229
the right side of my leg it was from

670
00:29:59,129 --> 00:29:55,570
versus I had subtitles and there was the

671
00:30:02,820 --> 00:29:59,139
thrombosis in my leg and it was it was a

672
00:30:05,969 --> 00:30:02,830
medical crisis and I was alone I was

673
00:30:07,349 --> 00:30:05,979
incapable of walking so I caught we had

674
00:30:10,259 --> 00:30:07,359
one phone in the house it was a

675
00:30:13,589 --> 00:30:10,269
ranch-style house the phone was a rough

676
00:30:16,969 --> 00:30:13,599
own in the kitchen and it you know you

677
00:30:22,289 --> 00:30:16,979
you're crawling you you just sort of

678
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:22,299
claw your way across the house to the

679
00:30:30,299 --> 00:30:26,950
kitchen and you know I I had six more

680
00:30:32,329 --> 00:30:30,309
feet to go and all of a sudden I I

681
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:32,339
couldn't stand to pay anymore I couldn't

682
00:30:39,329 --> 00:30:35,769
so I attacked the lump which was the

683
00:30:42,239 --> 00:30:39,339
worst thing I could do I hid it I shoved

684
00:30:46,909 --> 00:30:42,249
it I pushed it I hit it again and again

685
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:46,919
of course that scattered the thrombosis

686
00:30:55,139 --> 00:30:50,320
the blood clot and I died the second

687
00:30:57,299 --> 00:30:55,149
time okay so this time did they send

688
00:31:00,779 --> 00:30:57,309
emergency crew to your home immediately

689
00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:00,789
or was it wasn't until several days

690
00:31:06,659 --> 00:31:02,799
later that I was finally taken to a

691
00:31:09,629 --> 00:31:06,669
doctor you died and you resurrected

692
00:31:13,009 --> 00:31:09,639
yourself in a sense I came back to my

693
00:31:15,989 --> 00:31:13,019
body by myself I did revive run myself

694
00:31:17,339 --> 00:31:15,999
that's correct and you didn't think at

695
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:17,349
that point to go to a doctor and say

696
00:31:20,669 --> 00:31:18,190
wait a minute

697
00:31:23,729 --> 00:31:20,679
look what just happened to me no because

698
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:23,739
I didn't know what had happened to me I

699
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:28,210
was a good Westerner Westerners I come

700
00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:30,399
from I'd hunt Westerners take care of

701
00:31:34,499 --> 00:31:32,830
themselves you know we had a fire in our

702
00:31:43,829 --> 00:31:34,509
home I never called the fire department

703
00:31:45,090 --> 00:31:43,839
I put it out myself yeah well I was

704
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:45,100
finally taken to it

705
00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:49,600
and and and a specialist in fact and all

706
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:52,390
he did was shake his head he just kept

707
00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:54,010
saying to me there's no way you could be

708
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:55,799
alive there's no way you could be alive

709
00:32:01,159 --> 00:31:58,890
okay so the second time this happened

710
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:01,169
describe the experience in more detail

711
00:32:09,419 --> 00:32:05,110
well I can't get a great detail again

712
00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:09,429
I had an out-of-body component I had a

713
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,020
good I had a component of creation of

714
00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:19,360
leaving this world entering another one

715
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:23,950
being in the void discovering that I

716
00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:26,799
could create things and I began to do

717
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,100
just that and then I was met by loved

718
00:32:36,779 --> 00:32:32,559
ones who died on died and gone on before

719
00:32:40,350 --> 00:32:36,789
me I was met also by Jesus I had a

720
00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:40,360
session with Jesus and had the life

721
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:44,740
review and in my case it was not like

722
00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:48,610
picture windows or Moon screen or bits

723
00:32:56,370 --> 00:32:53,580
and pieces in my case rather it was

724
00:32:59,039 --> 00:32:56,380
reliving every thought I had every

725
00:33:02,399 --> 00:32:59,049
thought every word I had ever spoken and

726
00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:02,409
every deed I had ever done since birth

727
00:33:08,250 --> 00:33:06,100
and the effect of that on everyone who

728
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:08,260
had ever come within my environment

729
00:33:12,899 --> 00:33:10,030
whether I met them or not

730
00:33:17,789 --> 00:33:12,909
the effect is on the air on the water on

731
00:33:20,539 --> 00:33:17,799
the soil the tonal Gestalt of my ever

732
00:33:24,299 --> 00:33:20,549
having existed on the earth plane

733
00:33:25,649 --> 00:33:24,309
I would lived every bit of that this is

734
00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:25,659
the second time that you had your

735
00:33:34,340 --> 00:33:28,120
near-death experience yes now I had one

736
00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:34,350
of the in-depth bike reviews yeah I

737
00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:37,960
forgave myself and and there was a lot

738
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:40,390
of forgiveness and floated back into my

739
00:33:46,110 --> 00:33:43,510
body okay so you said you had a meeting

740
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:46,120
with Jesus is this the classic Jesus

741
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:47,590
that we see in churches and all the

742
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:52,210
pictures this is the person read gold

743
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:57,010
here and his eyes were a very very pale

744
00:34:01,950 --> 00:33:58,960
blue

745
00:34:06,299 --> 00:34:01,960
now one question The Skeptical save do

746
00:34:07,649 --> 00:34:06,309
you think pmh that maybe you imagined

747
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,659
all this it was some kind of

748
00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:10,240
hallucination while you were and they

749
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:15,700
say the death state oh no no way no way

750
00:34:22,859 --> 00:34:19,720
I did research years later I'm a

751
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:22,869
historical Jesus and there are letters

752
00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:26,649
in museums and I and I talked about it

753
00:34:33,329 --> 00:34:28,270
in the book I gave you the footnotes

754
00:34:36,919 --> 00:34:33,339
where you can check this letters written

755
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:36,929
at the time and sent back to Rome

756
00:34:44,010 --> 00:34:40,000
describing what Jesus looked like he was

757
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:44,020
very tall he had red gold hair and he

758
00:34:50,339 --> 00:34:47,609
had unusually light blue or gray eyes

759
00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:50,349
there was no way I could have known that

760
00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:52,470
you hadn't read any of this material

761
00:34:58,589 --> 00:34:55,750
before you have this encounter no well

762
00:35:01,980 --> 00:34:58,599
that leads me to a question about kind

763
00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:01,990
of a front-loading situation that's your

764
00:35:07,530 --> 00:35:04,180
question you had a near-death experience

765
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:07,540
now let's say somebody in in the Congo

766
00:35:11,010 --> 00:35:09,520
or somebody in Sri Lanka has a

767
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,020
near-death experience are they going to

768
00:35:18,859 --> 00:35:12,880
see Jesus are they going to see Krishna

769
00:35:24,109 --> 00:35:18,869
or some sort of Congolese arisia they

770
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:24,119
will more than likely see a figure that

771
00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:29,440
will seem very religious very holy very

772
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:32,230
divine to them and they will describe

773
00:35:37,339 --> 00:35:34,630
that figure in in terms of their own

774
00:35:40,349 --> 00:35:37,349
culture and their own language

775
00:35:45,630 --> 00:35:40,359
constraints if you have them draw the

776
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:45,640
picture who met them you can't see much

777
00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:48,960
difference between someone who is in

778
00:36:00,270 --> 00:35:53,109
Thailand or the state of Wyoming or in

779
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:00,280
Africa so the greeter and most people

780
00:36:05,849 --> 00:36:02,410
not everybody but most people are

781
00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:05,859
greeted by somebody whether that's a

782
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:07,660
loved one who's died and gone on before

783
00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:11,200
whether that's an animal a pet yes -

784
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:13,480
lots of animals and easy

785
00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:15,670
whether it's a light-being whether it's

786
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:18,670
an angel whether it's a Jesus type

787
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:21,640
figure a religious type figure of

788
00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:24,970
various kinds of breeders when I ask you

789
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,830
more about the greeters and why they are

790
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,480
different why the cultural background

791
00:36:32,610 --> 00:36:30,640
has anything to do with it we're trying

792
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to learn and it's a sure thing we're

793
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going to have you back to explore these

794
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795
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:38,710
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para cast with Jean and Chris is

914
00:41:56,489 --> 00:41:55,059
near-death experiences and I want to ask

915
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:56,499
you here because in each one of these

916
00:42:02,209 --> 00:41:59,920
cases you see something that appears to

917
00:42:05,370 --> 00:42:02,219
be part of your own culture so of course

918
00:42:06,779 --> 00:42:05,380
you see Jesus other people may see a

919
00:42:07,499 --> 00:42:06,789
religious figure a loved one or

920
00:42:10,410 --> 00:42:07,509
something like that

921
00:42:12,089 --> 00:42:10,420
does that go to say that you're not

922
00:42:14,429 --> 00:42:12,099
seeing the reality but you're seeing

923
00:42:17,309 --> 00:42:14,439
something that is colored by your

924
00:42:20,009 --> 00:42:17,319
perceptions or expectations that's a

925
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:20,019
hard one to call because many times

926
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:25,150
these greeters sometimes relatives that

927
00:42:30,469 --> 00:42:28,209
are that have died and gone on before

928
00:42:33,269 --> 00:42:30,479
you sometimes you didn't know them

929
00:42:36,749 --> 00:42:33,279
sometimes you never even saw a picture

930
00:42:40,109 --> 00:42:36,759
of them and and here the greeter comes

931
00:42:43,709 --> 00:42:40,119
and it's this particular individual and

932
00:42:48,479 --> 00:42:43,719
you do checking on it later on and find

933
00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:48,489
out yes indeed this was in my own case

934
00:42:56,339 --> 00:42:52,420
my grandfather I had no way to ever know

935
00:42:58,079 --> 00:42:56,349
this man I was born illegitimate in

936
00:43:00,089 --> 00:42:58,089
those days it was a big deal I've had

937
00:43:03,630 --> 00:43:00,099
five fathers and two mothers

938
00:43:07,739 --> 00:43:03,640
so I've had kind of what you could call

939
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an unusual life or in unusual childhood

940
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so I I could have had no way of knowing

941
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:12,260
about this

942
00:43:17,710 --> 00:43:14,710
father he came to me in my experience

943
00:43:21,610 --> 00:43:17,720
introduced himself to me we got

944
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:21,620
acquainted and again later on I went

945
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through the books and the world and

946
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Garden City Kansas that's where he was

947
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and and at the time and and found out

948
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yes that's what he looked like oh my

949
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gosh and and found out things about him

950
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:40,430
I could have never known that before the

951
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the idea then of the greeter sometimes

952
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and and this has happened many times in

953
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my cases

954
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the person will talk about let me give

955
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you an example this is a woman on the

956
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operating table there'd been an accident

957
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she died on the operating table they

958
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were able to bring her back and revive

959
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her and and they couldn't shut her up

960
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:09,170
she kept she kept talking about her dad

961
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she was met by her dad and and he

962
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described to her how he did how he died

963
00:44:22,930 --> 00:44:19,640
when he died and under the conditions

964
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and he kept telling her that he loved

965
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her but you know you know this wasn't

966
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her time she had to come back so the

967
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doctors went to the family who was

968
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gathered you know in the family room and

969
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said you know all she's talking about

970
00:44:42,310 --> 00:44:38,990
her dad and the people in the in the

971
00:44:46,060 --> 00:44:42,320
family room said no you know we were on

972
00:44:49,180 --> 00:44:46,070
the phone with him this morning he's in

973
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:49,190
perfect health obviously she's

974
00:44:53,890 --> 00:44:51,050
hallucinating so the doctors went back

975
00:44:57,130 --> 00:44:53,900
they couldn't shut her up she kept

976
00:45:01,240 --> 00:44:57,140
insisting she was met by her father

977
00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:01,250
and he told her all about how he died so

978
00:45:06,340 --> 00:45:03,950
they they went back to second time to

979
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:06,350
the people gathered in the room and said

980
00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:09,890
please call the father on the phone you

981
00:45:17,170 --> 00:45:13,550
know maybe this will stop her so many

982
00:45:21,070 --> 00:45:17,180
phone calls later they discovered that

983
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:21,080
the father had died five minutes before

984
00:45:26,170 --> 00:45:24,710
the daughter did and exactly the same

985
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:26,180
way she did

986
00:45:36,340 --> 00:45:31,750
bride Janine this happens fairly often

987
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:36,350
there is no way something like that is a

988
00:45:40,060 --> 00:45:37,610
hallucination

989
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:40,070
okay I guess I'm interested mostly there

990
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:42,350
in the way the perception is colored

991
00:45:48,070 --> 00:45:44,930
based on your cultural background based

992
00:45:52,510 --> 00:45:48,080
on the people you know what I'm finding

993
00:45:58,090 --> 00:45:52,520
again and again is that the in-depth

994
00:46:03,820 --> 00:45:58,100
experience itself will somehow in some

995
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:03,830
subtle way match whatever is best for

996
00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:06,560
you at that time in other words the

997
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:08,590
experiences come back and it never

998
00:46:17,110 --> 00:46:11,450
inevitably they will say I got what I

999
00:46:19,810 --> 00:46:17,120
needed so what they go through then

1000
00:46:26,050 --> 00:46:19,820
however they describe it according to

1001
00:46:30,460 --> 00:46:26,060
their culture well in some manner fit or

1002
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:30,470
or make things more comfortable or more

1003
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:34,690
fitting or or somehow will shake this

1004
00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:38,450
individual up in a way that seemed

1005
00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:42,020
somehow best for them on some level this

1006
00:46:46,690 --> 00:46:44,540
is what they're saying that's not what

1007
00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:46,700
I'm saying but that's what they're

1008
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:49,400
saying and it matches again and again

1009
00:46:53,860 --> 00:46:52,550
thousands and thousands of cases well

1010
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:53,870
let me let me throw a little

1011
00:46:59,110 --> 00:46:56,110
hypothetical in here let's say we have

1012
00:47:03,250 --> 00:46:59,120
someone who's a very bad person someone

1013
00:47:07,150 --> 00:47:03,260
who has had a life filled with with very

1014
00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:07,160
negative things hurting people possibly

1015
00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:09,950
you know Ted Bundy let's say Ted Bundy

1016
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:11,720
has a near-death experience is he going

1017
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:14,570
to be greeted by by some sort of angelic

1018
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:17,270
beings and in a golden light or is he

1019
00:47:23,410 --> 00:47:19,610
going to be spiraling downward into some

1020
00:47:25,630 --> 00:47:23,420
sort of infernal damnation realm do we

1021
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:25,640
have near-death experiences of very bad

1022
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:28,450
people that describe the opposite I

1023
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:33,200
research based work remember they are

1024
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:37,490
mafia a hitman what I'm going to say

1025
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:40,200
here is that idea

1026
00:47:46,310 --> 00:47:43,170
fitting that idea of whatever is best

1027
00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:46,320
for the individual is not in accord with

1028
00:47:52,329 --> 00:47:48,780
what we want what we would think it

1029
00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:52,339
seems always in accord with a higher

1030
00:47:58,940 --> 00:47:56,040
spirit soul of the individual not the

1031
00:48:01,329 --> 00:47:58,950
personality individual what you find

1032
00:48:09,130 --> 00:48:01,339
again and again is that these

1033
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:09,140
experiences will not follow the kind of

1034
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:12,900
stream that that we think that that that

1035
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:14,910
they would so let me talk about this

1036
00:48:19,609 --> 00:48:17,359
fellow who is a hit man with the Mafia

1037
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:19,619
obviously he'd beat up a lot of people

1038
00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:25,200
he had even killed a few he had the same

1039
00:48:30,290 --> 00:48:27,390
kind of near-death experience in the

1040
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:30,300
sense of the basic pattern as anybody

1041
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:30,660
else

1042
00:48:36,859 --> 00:48:33,210
it was his life review that was

1043
00:48:43,849 --> 00:48:36,869
different and he does a life review well

1044
00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:43,859
it was was so extreme that not only did

1045
00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:46,200
he have to relive what has happened in

1046
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:49,470
his life but he had to relive what

1047
00:48:57,890 --> 00:48:53,970
happened to everybody he ever hurt he

1048
00:49:03,470 --> 00:48:57,900
had to feel their pain everything they

1049
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:03,480
went through plus he had to relive their

1050
00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:06,390
families their friends whatever they

1051
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:09,240
went through because of what he did to

1052
00:49:16,130 --> 00:49:11,490
their loved one he had to live through

1053
00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:16,140
that also so when he came back he was so

1054
00:49:25,550 --> 00:49:22,680
traumatized by his life review all he

1055
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:25,560
could do when I met him and he was in

1056
00:49:33,980 --> 00:49:27,890
the Chicago area interestingly enough

1057
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:33,990
was he said he wanted in some manner to

1058
00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:36,960
make up for what he did so he was

1059
00:49:45,710 --> 00:49:41,700
literally serving soup to the street

1060
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:45,720
people and in an inner church that's

1061
00:49:50,660 --> 00:49:48,180
what he was doing today he said yeah I

1062
00:49:52,220 --> 00:49:50,670
can't ever go back to the life I met so

1063
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:52,230
in that case the near-death experience

1064
00:49:56,330 --> 00:49:54,060
was something positive

1065
00:49:58,460 --> 00:49:56,340
so would we suggest here because people

1066
00:50:01,550 --> 00:49:58,470
see different things that seem to be

1067
00:50:04,820 --> 00:50:01,560
related to their background expectations

1068
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:04,830
culturally the way they describe it is

1069
00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:06,690
related to their background of their

1070
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:09,300
culture what we're finding and

1071
00:50:15,050 --> 00:50:12,330
near-death experiences is that affects

1072
00:50:17,060 --> 00:50:15,060
the beach structures so we're talking

1073
00:50:18,620 --> 00:50:17,070
about something deeper than culture

1074
00:50:21,740 --> 00:50:18,630
we're talking about something deeper

1075
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:21,750
than personality or family we're talking

1076
00:50:31,310 --> 00:50:27,990
about the extreme depth how we describe

1077
00:50:35,570 --> 00:50:31,320
ourselves or how we think of ourselves

1078
00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:35,580
and even beyond that retire I think

1079
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:38,310
about heaven and hell' levels in a

1080
00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:40,770
deeper way we're talking about the

1081
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:43,560
temporal lobes and parallel processing

1082
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:46,380
the limbic system the pineal gland the

1083
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:49,110
sensitivities we don't even normally

1084
00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:52,110
think of we're talking about again the

1085
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:55,260
deep structures of scenarios and how we

1086
00:51:00,530 --> 00:50:58,440
put things together so so what we're not

1087
00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:00,540
being flippant here we're not just

1088
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,940
saying well this person who's a murderer

1089
00:51:07,730 --> 00:51:04,800
so therefore they have to go to hell oh

1090
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:07,740
this person was a really great person

1091
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:09,420
obviously they're going to go to heaven

1092
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:13,410
it doesn't necessarily work out that way

1093
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:17,280
nor is it interpreted in that manner on

1094
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this episode of course we're covering

1095
00:51:23,570 --> 00:51:21,270
matters that we really haven't touched

1096
00:51:25,550 --> 00:51:23,580
on much before we have PMH Atwater

1097
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joining gene and Kris discussing

1098
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near-death experiences you're in the

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responsibility

1157
00:54:04,279 --> 00:53:59,970
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1158
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:04,289
standard of paranormal radio and now

1159
00:54:13,859 --> 00:54:12,010
here's Jane Steinberg PMH Atwater

1160
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:13,869
joining us to talk about near-death

1161
00:54:19,049 --> 00:54:16,089
experiences about the cultural

1162
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:19,059
resemblance and connection about the

1163
00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:21,849
messages conveyed to the individual who

1164
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:23,500
undergoes his experience so we're saying

1165
00:54:28,859 --> 00:54:26,559
pmh that perhaps when someone undergoes

1166
00:54:32,250 --> 00:54:28,869
this experience they need something and

1167
00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:32,260
whatever force is involved God heaven

1168
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:35,140
whatever they provide what they need to

1169
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:38,529
get on well somehow some ways something

1170
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:41,890
is helping out with these experiences

1171
00:54:49,890 --> 00:54:46,480
and ordering them in a way that would

1172
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:49,900
best fit that person's needs before I

1173
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,000
wanted to give an example of this Heaven

1174
00:54:58,500 --> 00:54:54,640
and Hell thing I was giving a talk at a

1175
00:55:00,509 --> 00:54:58,510
very large Center at the end of my talk

1176
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:00,519
I asked those people who are in the

1177
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:02,559
audience if there were any Meredeth

1178
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:05,440
experiences in the audience never talked

1179
00:55:09,509 --> 00:55:06,910
about their experience would they like

1180
00:55:12,210 --> 00:55:09,519
to come up to the microphone now and

1181
00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:12,220
talk about it and I had two volunteers a

1182
00:55:17,279 --> 00:55:15,460
man and a woman the man was first I even

1183
00:55:19,819 --> 00:55:17,289
guess his age maybe to be in his early

1184
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:19,829
thirties he talked about his experience

1185
00:55:26,009 --> 00:55:22,960
it was a very heavenly experience a very

1186
00:55:28,529 --> 00:55:26,019
beautiful experience a very loving

1187
00:55:32,099 --> 00:55:28,539
experience there wasn't hardly a dry eye

1188
00:55:35,339 --> 00:55:32,109
in the place I don't like the best of

1189
00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:35,349
what you've ever heard on television or

1190
00:55:42,210 --> 00:55:38,980
you know on the radio or TV and money

1191
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:42,220
was true he shocked everybody in the

1192
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:46,089
room by saying this was the worst thing

1193
00:55:50,490 --> 00:55:48,970
that ever happened to him he felt cursed

1194
00:55:54,059 --> 00:55:50,500
by this experience

1195
00:55:57,180 --> 00:55:54,069
he wished it had never happened that it

1196
00:55:59,339 --> 00:55:57,190
had ruined his life then this woman

1197
00:56:02,519 --> 00:55:59,349
jumped up and talked about her

1198
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:02,529
experience and it was very dark there

1199
00:56:11,579 --> 00:56:07,210
were terrible storms and thunder raid

1200
00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:11,589
wind it's very very dark she was in kind

1201
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:14,980
of a whirlpool water whirlpool and she

1202
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:19,119
was being sucked down and she had to to

1203
00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:22,210
fight her way to the shore she finally

1204
00:56:28,140 --> 00:56:24,670
made it to the shore and pulled herself

1205
00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:28,150
out of the whirlpool and that's when she

1206
00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:30,550
revived in her experience so hers is

1207
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:33,849
very dark very daily isolation that

1208
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:37,089
sense or certainly very frightening and

1209
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:39,280
she it really shocked everybody in the

1210
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:42,220
room by saying that was the best thing

1211
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:45,520
that had ever happened to her that she

1212
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:48,640
felt she got blessed to have had this

1213
00:56:55,070 --> 00:56:52,810
experience because it showed her that no

1214
00:56:57,690 --> 00:56:55,080
matter what happens to you in life

1215
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:57,700
you can make your right way out of it

1216
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:00,880
you can you know over comment no matter

1217
00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:04,540
what it is you can overcome it so I

1218
00:57:09,089 --> 00:57:07,000
caution everybody when they talk about

1219
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:09,099
near-death experiences to be very

1220
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:11,920
careful when you're saying positive or

1221
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:12,490
negative

1222
00:57:19,530 --> 00:57:15,609
those are judgmental terms and they

1223
00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:19,540
don't apply what I've seen with the

1224
00:57:24,510 --> 00:57:22,150
thousands of near-death cases you know

1225
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:24,520
my workload is nearly four thousand

1226
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:26,890
adults and children is that when you're

1227
00:57:32,370 --> 00:57:29,380
talking about heaven and hell you're

1228
00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:32,380
talking about the other side and it

1229
00:57:36,810 --> 00:57:35,140
seems to be layered once you get on the

1230
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:36,820
other side sort of like a layer cake

1231
00:57:44,099 --> 00:57:40,650
there there are levels of dimensions

1232
00:57:48,089 --> 00:57:44,109
those that seem to go upward or a more

1233
00:57:50,970 --> 00:57:48,099
finer vibration we seem to call heaven

1234
00:57:54,329 --> 00:57:50,980
or more desirable those that are more

1235
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:54,339
dense and heavy or what we call more

1236
00:58:01,050 --> 00:57:57,130
frightening or maybe hellish but what

1237
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:01,060
I've noticed with all of these cases is

1238
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:04,450
if there's no top and no bottom this

1239
00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:07,690
system and I believe it is a system

1240
00:58:13,530 --> 00:58:11,260
works on choice in other words there's

1241
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:13,540
no ways that you can be condemned

1242
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:16,330
forever in some kind of hell just like

1243
00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:19,720
there's no way you float on it on a

1244
00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:21,070
cloud forever plane

1245
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:26,190
a harp this is a very dynamic moving

1246
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:29,970
system that is based on learning on

1247
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:33,460
surrender and on choice sounds like this

1248
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:36,810
incarnation just a more of a graduated

1249
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:39,520
level like we're in kindergarten here

1250
00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:41,290
and when we die and move on we go into

1251
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:45,790
first grade which is somewhere by the

1252
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:49,510
frequency of your vibration now how

1253
00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:51,250
about that third experience that you

1254
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:52,840
mentioned know the one that lasted for

1255
00:58:59,310 --> 00:58:54,090
quite some time

1256
00:59:02,010 --> 00:58:59,320
what how did that differ from the two or

1257
00:59:07,230 --> 00:59:02,020
what what was it about it certainly did

1258
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:07,240
different I was able to witness creation

1259
00:59:13,230 --> 00:59:11,530
as it occurs I got that back I was one

1260
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:13,240
of the few who could remember it and

1261
00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:17,110
bring it back and I wrote it down it's

1262
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:21,220
in my book I died three times in 1977

1263
00:59:26,810 --> 00:59:24,880
the complete story it's not gonna cost

1264
00:59:29,070 --> 00:59:26,820
you much it's you know you can get it on

1265
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:29,080
it's an e-book you can get it on

1266
00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:33,250
amazon.com and I you know I go in depth

1267
00:59:42,570 --> 00:59:38,230
about that there what was different

1268
00:59:45,570 --> 00:59:42,580
about that one was when I was in this

1269
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:45,580
special dimension or place whatever you

1270
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:50,650
want to call it a voice spoke now I was

1271
00:59:54,540 --> 00:59:52,810
familiar with angel voices and guides

1272
00:59:59,160 --> 00:59:54,550
and guardians and all this kind of

1273
01:00:02,940 --> 00:59:59,170
things long before I died that this

1274
01:00:07,770 --> 01:00:02,950
wasn't that kind of voice it was it was

1275
01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:07,780
big it was thunderous it was huge you

1276
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:09,670
know how do you how do you put an

1277
01:00:17,790 --> 01:00:13,450
adjective on that kind of voice it was

1278
01:00:19,650 --> 01:00:17,800
so big that it filled the universe and I

1279
01:00:23,150 --> 01:00:19,660
called it the voice like none other

1280
01:00:30,170 --> 01:00:23,160
and my sense was it was from God and

1281
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:30,180
that voice said and I quote test

1282
01:00:40,739 --> 01:00:34,329
revelation you are to do the research

1283
01:00:42,449 --> 01:00:40,749
one book for each death it named books

1284
01:00:45,089 --> 01:00:42,459
two and three not that one

1285
01:00:47,449 --> 01:00:45,099
it told me what was to be in each book

1286
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:47,459
or showed me what was to be in each book

1287
01:00:55,439 --> 01:00:50,890
it didn't show me how to do the work or

1288
01:00:58,529 --> 01:00:55,449
how long it would take so when I revived

1289
01:01:02,370 --> 01:00:58,539
I had a body to rebuild after were you

1290
01:01:04,229 --> 01:01:02,380
know people get so excited about

1291
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:04,239
near-death experiences in the stories

1292
01:01:08,479 --> 01:01:06,609
and they don't realize that most of

1293
01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:08,489
these cases come from violence or trauma

1294
01:01:15,419 --> 01:01:10,630
so you've got a body to rebuild

1295
01:01:17,969 --> 01:01:15,429
afterwards and I had to relearn how to

1296
01:01:20,339 --> 01:01:17,979
stand how to crawl how to walk how to

1297
01:01:22,229 --> 01:01:20,349
climb stairs how to run how to tell the

1298
01:01:24,269 --> 01:01:22,239
difference between left and right see

1299
01:01:27,449 --> 01:01:24,279
properly hear properly and rebuild all

1300
01:01:29,429 --> 01:01:27,459
my belief systems something here let me

1301
01:01:31,229 --> 01:01:29,439
interrupt please for a second okay

1302
01:01:32,999 --> 01:01:31,239
having to rebuild things would that

1303
01:01:34,829 --> 01:01:33,009
imply there was some sort of brain

1304
01:01:37,620 --> 01:01:34,839
damage as the result of this third

1305
01:01:40,589 --> 01:01:37,630
near-death experience I have no idea the

1306
01:01:48,689 --> 01:01:40,599
doctor never said that I would say body

1307
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:48,699
damage I had a lot of you you just have

1308
01:01:52,979 --> 01:01:50,170
to go through a lot of therapy and

1309
01:01:56,339 --> 01:01:52,989
exercises to get arms to work to get

1310
01:01:59,370 --> 01:01:56,349
legs to work to get a brain to focus

1311
01:02:02,099 --> 01:01:59,380
properly and I did that day and night

1312
01:02:04,979 --> 01:02:02,109
exercises for a year and at the end of

1313
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:04,989
that time I left Idaho and that's when I

1314
01:02:11,579 --> 01:02:07,119
began my research in the Washington DC

1315
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:11,589
area and I've been doing this research

1316
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:19,089
as I was told to do that brings up a

1317
01:02:25,949 --> 01:02:21,729
very interesting point about duration

1318
01:02:27,870 --> 01:02:25,959
now I hosted a very interesting talk a

1319
01:02:30,749 --> 01:02:27,880
number of years ago with a baptist

1320
01:02:32,429 --> 01:02:30,759
minister named Don Piper who and it's

1321
01:02:35,209 --> 01:02:32,439
been pretty well documented that he was

1322
01:02:38,099 --> 01:02:35,219
he was gone for 90 minutes right and

1323
01:02:41,279 --> 01:02:38,109
when he came back he did have some and

1324
01:02:44,819 --> 01:02:41,289
still does have some some physical

1325
01:02:47,730 --> 01:02:44,829
problems what what to your knowledge

1326
01:02:49,470 --> 01:02:47,740
what is the record for someone

1327
01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:49,480
like a child falling into a frozen lake

1328
01:02:55,890 --> 01:02:51,880
I know there's been cases over an hour

1329
01:02:57,839 --> 01:02:55,900
90 minutes what to your recollection in

1330
01:02:59,310 --> 01:02:57,849
in your research is the record for

1331
01:03:01,680 --> 01:02:59,320
somebody coming back from being

1332
01:03:03,089 --> 01:03:01,690
clinically dead dr. Atwater before you

1333
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:03,099
answer that question we have to do our

1334
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:05,200
break so listeners

1335
01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:08,650
we have PMH Atwater she is someone who

1336
01:03:13,890 --> 01:03:11,380
has had three near-death experiences

1337
01:03:15,870 --> 01:03:13,900
herself amongst her books near-death

1338
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:15,880
experiences rest of the story the big

1339
01:03:20,099 --> 01:03:18,160
book on near-death experiences and when

1340
01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:20,109
you check her catalog you'll find she's

1341
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,420
written a lot of other fascinating books

1342
01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:24,640
that you'll probably want to check out

1343
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:26,430
and she's answering loads of questions

1344
01:03:32,849 --> 01:03:29,290
about what happened to people are now

1345
01:03:34,910 --> 01:03:32,859
chris's question the longest death

1346
01:03:37,170 --> 01:03:34,920
sequence before someone was revived

1347
01:03:39,770 --> 01:03:37,180
successfully with gene and Chris you're

1348
01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:39,780
in the para cast

1349
01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:48,390
[Music]

1350
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near-death experiences and also someone

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who has experienced them joining gene

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and Chris on the para cast and now Chris

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post a question before a previous break

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about the longest experience where

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someone was clinically dead before they

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came back successfully what do you know

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about this dr. Atwater I'm gonna give

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you a modern one and a historical one

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the modern one is George wrote an ayat

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in his Georgia he's from Georgia and his

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was documented three days in a morgue

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and and he came back the other one

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historical is Walter Russell we're

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talking Jean was late 1800s Early 1900s

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and his was 39 in days and nights when

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he came back he was literally holy mind

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you know just just not

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he just wasn't Walter Russell anymore he

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was just mind and it took several years

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for him to be being able to converse

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properly even to be able to hold a

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pencil and when he weren't able to

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converse properly again and be a human

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being if you want to call it that way

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again he started writing and he's

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written just incredible books the secret

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of light the divine Iliad the the one

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that that just captures me is called the

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universal one it's out of science

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it's the periodic tables he corrected

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the way that that we have them now he

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predicted black holes before anybody

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else

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was a correspondent with Einstein and

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they just came back totally science and

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he had been an artist before a sculptor

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he could still do that afterward but he

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was into science how was that possible

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for a a body to lie for 39 days and and

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be able to be revived wouldn't you start

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having some sort of necrotic process

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occur

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I mean break down Plato talks about that

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in the soldier earth who was dead for

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ten days on the battlefield the body

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never corrupted they put him according

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to Plato on on a pyre to you know to

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burn and he came to he revived on the

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funeral pyre and with a very long

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complex near-death experience which

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Plato talks about so yes it does happen

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no it does not happen very often they

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these are rare but they do occur how do

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we explain it we can how do we explain a

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near-death experience well you know

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there's a lot of doctors and scientists

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who think they can every one of their

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skeptical ideas have been have been

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overturned in clinical medical studies

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there there's not a one of the skeptical

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ideas about how you know how we can even

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describe these things what we know now

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because for clinical prospective studies

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done in three countries is that the

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near-death experience is absolutely real

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that during these experiences you can

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have vivid detailed checkable

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out-of-body experiences clear enhanced

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consciousness self-identity with

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emotions

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cognition perception so use of your

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faculties and impact memories when the

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brain is not working because of this

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because of this great amount of

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peer-reviewed studies that have been

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published we can now say today that the

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near-death experience it's the number

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one phenomenon that scientists are now

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using to understand consciousness itself

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very interesting I it just seems to me

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that that it violates the laws of

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science to have a body play wait lay

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there for days at a time and not break

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down of course we do have the alleged 12

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incorruptibles Saints whose bodies have

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to varying degrees have not have not

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degraded I think there's one saint who

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was famous for preaching to million plus

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people and his tongue has remained I

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guess intact while the rest of him faded

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away of course there's Marie huzi

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seguida I actually was able to dig up

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the only known photograph of her she

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looks pristine after over 300 years to

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complete scientific investigations done

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exactly 100 years apart were conducted

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on her and they found no evidence of any

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sort of of advanced necrosis

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in a hundred years so you know there are

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things obviously you know our reality

1552
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many things that we scientifically can't

1553
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explain but but this whole idea of of

1554
01:14:08,020 --> 01:14:05,890
being gone and then coming back and this

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one particular instance that you're

1556
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referring to from the late 1800s is is

1557
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absolutely fascinating the guy comes

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back and and literally it sounds like

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he's he's coming back with some of the

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secrets of the universe if Einsteins

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gonna spend time to communicate with him

1562
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this fascinating stuff I didn't I was

1563
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:29,180
not aware of this and I'm sure well what

1564
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was this

1565
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Russell Walter Russell I'm writing that

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one down I wanna I'm gonna do a little

1567
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research on this guy science and

1568
01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:44,160
philosophy he he went on to found that

1569
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:48,940
along with his wife Leila Russell and do

1570
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and indeed look up his his books his

1571
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story he was able to transmute metal and

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this was conducted in a laboratory

1573
01:15:11,370 --> 01:15:02,950
you know I mean I mean everything is

1574
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documented transmute matter now had

1575
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something to do with lithium with

1576
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lithium okay I don't know research on

1577
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that because this is we're getting into

1578
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rarefied realms here well going back to

1579
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your experience now I know I act me if

1580
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I'm wrong you were gone about twenty

1581
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:31,500
minutes you figure you know who knows

1582
01:15:38,090 --> 01:15:35,290
yeah okay well I'm very curious as to

1583
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:38,100
you know how how this has actually

1584
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obviously you came back and were

1585
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inspired I mean you were given a

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complete boilerplate instructions I mean

1587
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life go on on where to go with with your

1588
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life at this point now where would you

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put that as a key experience in your

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life would you say that was the

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experience that really put you on your

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path I came back with a mission and and

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I and I did my mission I completed it I

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did my work there was absolutely no

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question that I would do the work and I

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did so there was no no judgment call

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this is what I had to do I'm going to do

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it and that's it nothing okay we're

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gonna break here we're gonna break here

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we have dr. PMH Atwater joining gene and

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Chris talking about near-death

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encyclopedia other books you're

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listening to the paragraph with dr. PMH

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Atwater expert on near-death experiences

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1720
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she decided her life work would be to

1721
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talk about this to others now what about

1722
01:21:23,390 --> 01:21:21,840
your family here now I don't know how

1723
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much of your personal life you want to

1724
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go into but obviously someone's had

1725
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near-death experiences and goes into

1726
01:21:31,699 --> 01:21:28,860
that will go into it in your 30s these

1727
01:21:34,370 --> 01:21:31,709
happen at a time after you got divorced

1728
01:21:36,859 --> 01:21:34,380
from your husband right right okay

1729
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:36,869
you're not remarried at all yes I did

1730
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:40,530
okay okay right now been married 32

1731
01:21:45,739 --> 01:21:44,159
years okay now your children having

1732
01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:45,749
undergone this experience and having

1733
01:21:49,969 --> 01:21:48,329
wanted to do this kind of work what did

1734
01:21:53,919 --> 01:21:49,979
your kids think of it they think well

1735
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:53,929
mommy's a little bit wacky here or what

1736
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:57,360
thinks I'm wacky so I say that years

1737
01:22:01,850 --> 01:21:59,280
later I invited each one of them to

1738
01:22:03,919 --> 01:22:01,860
write me a letter what's their opinion

1739
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:03,929
of what they went through with a very

1740
01:22:09,799 --> 01:22:07,110
different mother and my son who's the

1741
01:22:14,509 --> 01:22:09,809
oldest and the youngest daughter don't

1742
01:22:16,580 --> 01:22:14,519
wrote back and said that I was better

1743
01:22:20,239 --> 01:22:16,590
and they liked me better and they loved

1744
01:22:23,899 --> 01:22:20,249
me better and and that did it made me a

1745
01:22:25,879 --> 01:22:23,909
better person the middle child the

1746
01:22:29,330 --> 01:22:25,889
oldest daughter was quite different her

1747
01:22:32,449 --> 01:22:29,340
name is Natalie and Natalie never walked

1748
01:22:34,850 --> 01:22:32,459
into a room she explodes into a room so

1749
01:22:40,069 --> 01:22:34,860
natalie is kind of uh you know kind of a

1750
01:22:44,929 --> 01:22:40,079
feisty character and well even before I

1751
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,939
asked for the letter when I was you know

1752
01:22:48,679 --> 01:22:46,800
going through my process of all that

1753
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:48,689
exercise and trying to get my body back

1754
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:53,010
and my brain back and you know it got to

1755
01:22:58,399 --> 01:22:56,130
the point where I kind of felt like I

1756
01:23:00,859 --> 01:22:58,409
did it you know that I was reasonably

1757
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:00,869
back and I was you know kind of proud of

1758
01:23:05,330 --> 01:23:01,770
myself

1759
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:05,340
you know being able to do that she came

1760
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:07,410
up to me one day with her hands on her

1761
01:23:10,490 --> 01:23:08,010
hips

1762
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:10,500
let me straight in the eye and she said

1763
01:23:18,980 --> 01:23:13,920
well I like you better now than I used

1764
01:23:23,690 --> 01:23:18,990
to but I mentioned mom and I want mom

1765
01:23:25,220 --> 01:23:23,700
bad well you know what both look for I I

1766
01:23:26,690 --> 01:23:25,230
don't know what happened to that woman

1767
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:26,700
we never did find her

1768
01:23:33,770 --> 01:23:30,690
so her letter to me was wrong with

1769
01:23:37,670 --> 01:23:33,780
various kinds of complaints that I

1770
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:37,680
wasn't mom anymore and then at the end

1771
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:42,090
of her letter she said well mother you

1772
01:23:49,850 --> 01:23:46,080
really are okay I did this my turn now

1773
01:23:51,950 --> 01:23:49,860
to change like you did so that told me

1774
01:24:01,760 --> 01:23:51,960
there was some kind of healing that it

1775
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,770
was for a girl to change there's got to

1776
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:03,600
be a better way maybe somebody'll come

1777
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:05,280
up with our workshop or something

1778
01:24:18,050 --> 01:24:10,770
no I left out on my life I did I the

1779
01:24:20,570 --> 01:24:18,060
others went on to go to a cruise school

1780
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:20,580
aboard a square rigger and the Atlantic

1781
01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:23,250
Ocean my daughter went to college the

1782
01:24:30,830 --> 01:24:26,190
youngest went to live with her father so

1783
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:30,840
I was left alone and I sold or gave away

1784
01:24:40,090 --> 01:24:35,850
or stored everything I had so my house

1785
01:24:43,010 --> 01:24:40,100
wrapped down on my life quit my job and

1786
01:24:46,030 --> 01:24:43,020
sort of meandered across the United

1787
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,040
States and my little Ford Pinto

1788
01:24:51,740 --> 01:24:48,960
fulfilling all of my childhood dreams

1789
01:24:56,030 --> 01:24:51,750
and wishes wound up in the Washington DC

1790
01:25:00,230 --> 01:24:56,040
area went to work there and it was there

1791
01:25:05,150 --> 01:25:00,240
that I began my research and settle down

1792
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:05,160
and did my work and again there was no

1793
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:07,290
thought of doing anything else I mean

1794
01:25:13,940 --> 01:25:10,530
this is what I was to do this was where

1795
01:25:15,170 --> 01:25:13,950
I was to do this work the first two

1796
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:15,180
decades

1797
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:21,210
I worked a seven-day week and I averaged

1798
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:25,170
about somewhere between an 11 and 12

1799
01:25:32,410 --> 01:25:28,530
hour days I was absolutely obsessed with

1800
01:25:36,050 --> 01:25:32,420
what I was doing I'm a field worker I

1801
01:25:39,850 --> 01:25:36,060
did most of my work in the field meeting

1802
01:25:44,690 --> 01:25:42,500
remember on the cops kids so whenever I

1803
01:25:47,150 --> 01:25:44,700
could I would get into the family I

1804
01:25:52,490 --> 01:25:47,160
would have sessions with a family as

1805
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:52,500
well I was like health care givers with

1806
01:26:00,200 --> 01:25:55,530
the neighbors with the co-workers with

1807
01:26:03,710 --> 01:26:00,210
the children of I had lots of sessions

1808
01:26:06,410 --> 01:26:03,720
with all kinds of people not just the

1809
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,420
near-death experiencer because I wanted

1810
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:09,120
to know how real it was for them yes so

1811
01:26:13,730 --> 01:26:10,800
you talked these are all people in

1812
01:26:22,210 --> 01:26:13,740
addition to the 4,000 case studies that

1813
01:26:26,290 --> 01:26:22,220
you did my dad was very clear he said

1814
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:26,300
the body says more than the mouth does

1815
01:26:34,820 --> 01:26:29,210
so I spent a lot of time observing

1816
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:34,830
people on watching people watching the

1817
01:26:43,340 --> 01:26:36,930
body the various joints various

1818
01:26:46,580 --> 01:26:43,350
movements the eyes yeah I did

1819
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:46,590
very few questionnaires most of my work

1820
01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:50,130
as person to person or group to group

1821
01:26:56,780 --> 01:26:54,420
and like a good police officer you know

1822
01:26:59,810 --> 01:26:56,790
if there's an accident and there's four

1823
01:27:03,770 --> 01:26:59,820
witnesses you cannot go up to them and

1824
01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:03,780
say anything except did you see anything

1825
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:08,310
if they use the word car then you can if

1826
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:10,290
they use the word accident then you

1827
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:14,250
can't you cannot use words in advance of

1828
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:16,800
your subject you cannot do that that's

1829
01:27:24,170 --> 01:27:18,330
called leading the witness that's that's

1830
01:27:26,750 --> 01:27:24,180
pretty basic purposes yeah yeah and and

1831
01:27:28,190 --> 01:27:26,760
that's the way I did my work and if

1832
01:27:29,060 --> 01:27:28,200
you're working with children your

1833
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:29,070
eyeballs

1834
01:27:33,919 --> 01:27:31,199
your eye cannot be above there's your

1835
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:33,929
pupil cannot be above their pupil so if

1836
01:27:38,450 --> 01:27:36,449
they're small then guess where you're

1837
01:27:43,010 --> 01:27:38,460
doing well she works you know on your

1838
01:27:48,140 --> 01:27:43,020
belly or laying down worked a lot with

1839
01:27:50,180 --> 01:27:48,150
kids by the way anyone can have a

1840
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:50,190
near-death experience including pre

1841
01:27:57,250 --> 01:27:53,210
birth including birth trauma including

1842
01:28:00,979 --> 01:27:57,260
in the vagina as the child is being born

1843
01:28:04,010 --> 01:28:00,989
including after birth toddlers anybody

1844
01:28:05,569 --> 01:28:04,020
can have a near-death experience with

1845
01:28:09,979 --> 01:28:05,579
the little ones when they're old enough

1846
01:28:13,490 --> 01:28:09,989
to have language they will talk about it

1847
01:28:14,959 --> 01:28:13,500
or act it out or draw that's fascinating

1848
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:14,969
okay let's go into that a little bit

1849
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:18,480
okay so a child years later after having

1850
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:22,110
something happened to them before they

1851
01:28:26,419 --> 01:28:23,760
were born or when they were very very

1852
01:28:28,399 --> 01:28:26,429
young begins to recall in what fashion

1853
01:28:31,399 --> 01:28:28,409
does this manifests itself this

1854
01:28:33,729 --> 01:28:31,409
recollection well usually the child will

1855
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:33,739
try to talk about it they'll talk about

1856
01:28:42,260 --> 01:28:38,639
angels or light beings usually they talk

1857
01:28:44,959 --> 01:28:42,270
about the people little ones don't have

1858
01:28:50,510 --> 01:28:44,969
the word angel so they'll talk about the

1859
01:28:54,010 --> 01:28:50,520
people the right that talks to them so

1860
01:28:56,510 --> 01:28:54,020
they're you know depending on their age

1861
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:56,520
they'll have a different term that they

1862
01:29:05,180 --> 01:29:00,719
use but that was kids you know it's just

1863
01:29:09,109 --> 01:29:05,190
for instance half of them in my research

1864
01:29:11,629 --> 01:29:09,119
base with kids my book on this is the

1865
01:29:15,919 --> 01:29:11,639
new children and near-death experiences

1866
01:29:17,540 --> 01:29:15,929
where I go in depth about children half

1867
01:29:19,879 --> 01:29:17,550
of them in my research base could

1868
01:29:22,339 --> 01:29:19,889
remember their birth and in those cases

1869
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:22,349
where I could get back with the mom or

1870
01:29:27,649 --> 01:29:25,440
dad or maybe an aunt or uncle I never

1871
01:29:30,169 --> 01:29:27,659
found an error they were absolutely

1872
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:30,179
right in those cases with pre-birth

1873
01:29:35,839 --> 01:29:32,610
memory one third in my research base

1874
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:35,849
with kids at pre-birth memory and and

1875
01:29:42,259 --> 01:29:40,170
that traced back to about seven months

1876
01:29:45,879 --> 01:29:42,269
in neutral or

1877
01:29:49,429 --> 01:29:45,889
the third trimester and it seems like

1878
01:29:53,299 --> 01:29:49,439
you know about the time when the

1879
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:53,309
so-called fetus can feel pain that's

1880
01:29:59,569 --> 01:29:56,249
also in the brain kicks in and these

1881
01:30:02,509 --> 01:29:59,579
kids come back telling their parents

1882
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:02,519
what they said when they were still in

1883
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:05,760
the womb and shocked their parents if

1884
01:30:10,069 --> 01:30:08,010
you'll get to my book the big book of

1885
01:30:12,589 --> 01:30:10,079
near-death experiences you'll notice

1886
01:30:15,169 --> 01:30:12,599
there's a section in there called a room

1887
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with up to you I'll tell you what that's

1888
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a title I love that title they can hear

1889
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we have a lot more to cover with PMH

1890
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Atwater on near-death experiences even

1891
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before some people were born with gene

1892
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and Chris you're in the para cast are

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1921
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1922
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talk about gold IRAs they've been

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industry won't recognize the value of

1938
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1940
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1970
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the less you're able to repair the 75

1971
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trillion cells of your body as a result

1972
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1973
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1974
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an older person will typically injure

1975
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more easily and heal more slowly not fun

1976
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1978
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1979
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1983
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is amazing I play pickleball and since

1985
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1986
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mineral supplement I have more energy

1987
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and recover faster for my working out I

1988
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used to take another grass-fed whey

1989
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protein powder but now I'm getting much

1990
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better results using one world way call

1991
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1993
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world

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1996
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here to say a good word or two

1997
01:35:02,390 --> 01:34:59,790
about the para caste which I believe is

1998
01:35:09,740 --> 01:35:02,400
the gold standard of paranormal radio

1999
01:35:11,510 --> 01:35:09,750
listen to it if you can on the power

2000
01:35:14,660 --> 01:35:11,520
cast with Gina and Chris we are covering

2001
01:35:17,420 --> 01:35:14,670
near-death experiences with PMH Atwater

2002
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:17,430
and we'll be asking dr. aqua water I

2003
01:35:21,440 --> 01:35:19,170
guess in this segment more about those

2004
01:35:24,620 --> 01:35:21,450
who recall things happening to them in

2005
01:35:27,470 --> 01:35:24,630
the womb now this gets to be kind of a

2006
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:27,480
moral question here but what is your

2007
01:35:32,660 --> 01:35:29,130
belief you don't have to go into it if

2008
01:35:34,460 --> 01:35:32,670
you don't want to about when life begins

2009
01:35:36,710 --> 01:35:34,470
and this is the whole abortion debate

2010
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:36,720
and everything when does life really

2011
01:35:40,940 --> 01:35:39,090
began when there's consciousness or some

2012
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:40,950
remembrance of what happened or what

2013
01:35:48,740 --> 01:35:44,610
well what we hear from adult experiences

2014
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:48,750
as well as children is that they are

2015
01:35:59,090 --> 01:35:54,290
very much alive and aware and conscious

2016
01:36:02,840 --> 01:35:59,100
before they're even conceived and that

2017
01:36:06,380 --> 01:36:02,850
many of them choose their parents choose

2018
01:36:09,770 --> 01:36:06,390
their DNA choose their characteristics

2019
01:36:15,770 --> 01:36:09,780
choose their hairstyle whether they'll

2020
01:36:20,750 --> 01:36:15,780
have a handicapped and so forth how so

2021
01:36:23,300 --> 01:36:20,760
are they choosing this yeah basically I

2022
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:23,310
want to second-guess myself in spirit

2023
01:36:36,020 --> 01:36:33,890
you know I gotta think about your excuse

2024
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:36,030
why did you end up as you did we

2025
01:36:41,930 --> 01:36:38,370
understand dr. Atwater she came out

2026
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:41,940
pretty well all things considered but

2027
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:43,650
you know I have to look at myself say

2028
01:36:47,870 --> 01:36:45,930
gee how did I come out this way I mean

2029
01:36:50,030 --> 01:36:47,880
my son is perfect so we know there was

2030
01:36:52,730 --> 01:36:50,040
no question about how he came out but

2031
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:52,740
with myself okay but they're choosing

2032
01:36:57,290 --> 01:36:55,290
them says how do you remember doing this

2033
01:36:59,210 --> 01:36:57,300
what kind of awareness

2034
01:37:07,460 --> 01:36:59,220
would you have they remember this in

2035
01:37:09,770 --> 01:37:07,470
there okay dr. Atwater just so that I'm

2036
01:37:11,090 --> 01:37:09,780
clear here this information that you're

2037
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:11,100
referring to is not a

2038
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:13,770
general sort of statement of fact it is

2039
01:37:22,910 --> 01:37:16,650
based on recollections brought back from

2040
01:37:23,900 --> 01:37:22,920
and E's okay okay I just wanted to get

2041
01:37:26,330 --> 01:37:23,910
that clear because I was a little

2042
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:26,340
confused there because it would be very

2043
01:37:32,270 --> 01:37:29,250
very hard for me to believe that that

2044
01:37:34,370 --> 01:37:32,280
there is any way to determine those

2045
01:37:36,230 --> 01:37:34,380
things scientifically unless they're

2046
01:37:39,500 --> 01:37:36,240
brought back in some sort of subjective

2047
01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:39,510
way right it's their testimony their

2048
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:43,440
narrative about their experiences there

2049
01:37:50,290 --> 01:37:48,650
were not that many who talked about

2050
01:37:54,350 --> 01:37:50,300
pre-conceptual

2051
01:37:57,470 --> 01:37:54,360
knowledge and awareness but there were a

2052
01:38:00,230 --> 01:37:57,480
lot of them who talked about that

2053
01:38:04,430 --> 01:38:00,240
awareness once they were in the body

2054
01:38:07,670 --> 01:38:04,440
once they had been conceived and and

2055
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:07,680
they're in the uterus awaiting birth now

2056
01:38:11,630 --> 01:38:09,450
I want to ask you another left-field

2057
01:38:13,490 --> 01:38:11,640
question here when people have a

2058
01:38:13,850 --> 01:38:13,500
remembrance of something before they're

2059
01:38:16,340 --> 01:38:13,860
born

2060
01:38:19,820 --> 01:38:16,350
is there no possibility this is some

2061
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:19,830
kind of bad dream good dream illusion or

2062
01:38:26,630 --> 01:38:22,080
something I can't make that kind of

2063
01:38:28,700 --> 01:38:26,640
judgment all I can do is speak to what

2064
01:38:35,570 --> 01:38:28,710
they tell me what their parents tell me

2065
01:38:38,780 --> 01:38:35,580
and step back and AH because I mean this

2066
01:38:42,020 --> 01:38:38,790
is just quite incredible for those who

2067
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:42,030
have supposed remembrances of near-death

2068
01:38:46,370 --> 01:38:44,370
experiences before they were born is

2069
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:46,380
there medical evidence of the actually

2070
01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:48,330
for a brief period of time were

2071
01:38:56,630 --> 01:38:54,080
clinically dead in the womb yes okay

2072
01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:56,640
maybe you can explain that further and

2073
01:39:01,550 --> 01:38:58,170
then so in other words like a child will

2074
01:39:06,010 --> 01:39:01,560
draw something then the parents check it

2075
01:39:11,420 --> 01:39:06,020
out I give an example in in my books

2076
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:11,430
just this one particular child not now

2077
01:39:22,010 --> 01:39:20,130
this is closer to birth the mother there

2078
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:22,020
was no more heartbeat the the mother

2079
01:39:27,950 --> 01:39:24,690
went to the doctor this is weeks before

2080
01:39:30,980 --> 01:39:27,960
the child is due went to the doctor

2081
01:39:34,430 --> 01:39:30,990
again and again and finally the doctor

2082
01:39:36,530 --> 01:39:34,440
said this is stillborn we're going to

2083
01:39:40,460 --> 01:39:36,540
have to induce labor and get the thing

2084
01:39:43,190 --> 01:39:40,470
you know and and get the the baby out so

2085
01:39:47,390 --> 01:39:43,200
she came home told her husband her

2086
01:39:50,150 --> 01:39:47,400
husband rented an absolute rage was gone

2087
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:50,160
for a while came back absolutely drunk

2088
01:39:57,830 --> 01:39:54,330
picked up his wife threw her across the

2089
01:40:01,820 --> 01:39:57,840
room and into the corner of a wooden

2090
01:40:03,860 --> 01:40:01,830
table it ruptured the her stomach her

2091
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:03,870
uterus area she was rushed to the

2092
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:09,600
hospital they delivered the supposed

2093
01:40:15,740 --> 01:40:12,690
baby lot of hair on it didn't even look

2094
01:40:20,060 --> 01:40:15,750
like a real baby they just sort of

2095
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:20,070
shoved it over to the side and spent all

2096
01:40:26,570 --> 01:40:22,050
their time with a mother trying to save

2097
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:26,580
the mother and then after they saved the

2098
01:40:31,340 --> 01:40:28,650
mother they noticed that this little

2099
01:40:34,220 --> 01:40:31,350
heap that they kind of cast to one side

2100
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:34,230
began to breathe so they went through

2101
01:40:40,370 --> 01:40:37,410
that back to the parents and said you

2102
01:40:43,580 --> 01:40:40,380
know apparently this thing is living

2103
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:43,590
after all may we conduct medical

2104
01:40:49,820 --> 01:40:46,530
experiments both parents gave permission

2105
01:40:53,060 --> 01:40:49,830
because obviously what they called the

2106
01:40:56,330 --> 01:40:53,070
same wasn't going to live so go ahead

2107
01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:56,340
and you know when push comes to shove

2108
01:41:00,010 --> 01:40:58,560
that's probably the best decision that

2109
01:41:04,940 --> 01:41:00,020
could have been made in this case

2110
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:04,950
because they were able to revive this

2111
01:41:13,370 --> 01:41:10,050
baby and the baby survived and and when

2112
01:41:16,370 --> 01:41:13,380
that child was a new girl and when that

2113
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:16,380
child was two years old and by the way

2114
01:41:22,850 --> 01:41:20,250
the father determined in his mind that

2115
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:22,860
this is a boy that his his wife had

2116
01:41:28,820 --> 01:41:25,890
killed his son and that's why they're so

2117
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:28,830
enraged and torched the house and threw

2118
01:41:37,700 --> 01:41:32,490
his wife across the room because in his

2119
01:41:38,510 --> 01:41:37,710
mind in a very drunken mind he concluded

2120
01:42:01,820 --> 01:41:38,520
the

2121
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:01,830
going now to a time when this child this

2122
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:04,530
little girl is two-and-a-half years old

2123
01:42:12,770 --> 01:42:07,730
and there's kind of like a family

2124
01:42:16,730 --> 01:42:12,780
get-together so this child who by now as

2125
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:16,740
a library card and is his reading

2126
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:20,490
advanced books and speaking in full

2127
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:23,850
sentences remember I told you about the

2128
01:42:28,940 --> 01:42:25,890
increase in intelligence afterward

2129
01:42:31,820 --> 01:42:28,950
especially with children in her case

2130
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:31,830
this was certainly so at the age of two

2131
01:42:39,350 --> 01:42:35,010
and a half in front of everyone she went

2132
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:39,360
up to the Father out loud and repeated

2133
01:42:46,940 --> 01:42:44,730
every word he said to her mother before

2134
01:42:49,070 --> 01:42:46,950
he threw her across the room she

2135
01:42:53,290 --> 01:42:49,080
described the room she described

2136
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:53,300
everything he did in the room she colors

2137
01:43:02,120 --> 01:42:57,930
furniture placement everything every

2138
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:02,130
word he said to her mother he was social

2139
01:43:07,010 --> 01:43:05,010
and everyone in the room was so shocked

2140
01:43:13,150 --> 01:43:07,020
that's paranoia no one could say

2141
01:43:16,700 --> 01:43:13,160
anything it happened again and again

2142
01:43:20,780 --> 01:43:16,710
other cases that that that can back up

2143
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,790
this sort of precognition yeah wow

2144
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:22,320
that's amazing what what do you think

2145
01:43:26,990 --> 01:43:24,810
we're dealing with here you know we've

2146
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:27,000
heard all our listeners are pretty up to

2147
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:31,410
speed we have a real a real interested

2148
01:43:35,630 --> 01:43:34,080
and proactive audience out there on the

2149
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:35,640
pair of cast a lot of folks really do a

2150
01:43:39,380 --> 01:43:37,890
lot of research on their own and the

2151
01:43:42,440 --> 01:43:39,390
term Akashic records

2152
01:43:44,420 --> 01:43:42,450
I'm sure comes up in people's research

2153
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:44,430
from time to time do you think that this

2154
01:43:49,490 --> 01:43:46,290
is something that there's some sort of

2155
01:43:51,710 --> 01:43:49,500
pool of data and feeling and sensation

2156
01:43:52,340 --> 01:43:51,720
out there that that we all sort of

2157
01:43:55,850 --> 01:43:52,350
belong to

2158
01:43:59,320 --> 01:43:55,860
and during these these periods of trauma

2159
01:44:02,260 --> 01:43:59,330
were able to somehow access some sort of

2160
01:44:04,910 --> 01:44:02,270
amorphous library of information

2161
01:44:08,110 --> 01:44:04,920
sensation that sort of thing or do you

2162
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:08,120
think these are all just individualized

2163
01:44:15,980 --> 01:44:10,410
experiences that have no connection with

2164
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:15,990
some greater whole what I think is we

2165
01:44:22,130 --> 01:44:18,530
are witnessing the will of the soul

2166
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:22,140
we're talking about the soul here and it

2167
01:44:26,660 --> 01:44:24,810
has its own will we're not talking about

2168
01:44:28,940 --> 01:44:26,670
personality we're not talking about gene

2169
01:44:31,190 --> 01:44:28,950
we're not talking about pmh because I'm

2170
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:31,200
not talking about this soul a gene and

2171
01:44:42,620 --> 01:44:36,330
the soul of pH and that's what seems to

2172
01:44:45,740 --> 01:44:42,630
reveal itself and and these experiences

2173
01:44:50,230 --> 01:44:45,750
then follow along with what the soul

2174
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:50,240
wants in its growth and it's learning

2175
01:44:57,530 --> 01:44:54,800
whatever it needs and that it's that

2176
01:45:02,870 --> 01:44:57,540
it's an individualized thing this is not

2177
01:45:05,180 --> 01:45:02,880
some sort of part of the greater the

2178
01:45:06,830 --> 01:45:05,190
greater group if you will and if you

2179
01:45:09,290 --> 01:45:06,840
have a comment a question about the

2180
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power cast please write us news at the

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power cast comm once again that's news

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at the power cast comm we want to hear

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we have PMH Atwater joining gene and

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Chris you're in the para cast

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2241
01:48:04,670 --> 01:48:01,950
here's Jane Steinberg fascinating

2242
01:48:07,550 --> 01:48:04,680
discussion with Chris O'Brien and PMH

2243
01:48:09,440 --> 01:48:07,560
Atwater and dr. Atwater you were about

2244
01:48:11,060 --> 01:48:09,450
to answer Chris and we kind of ran out

2245
01:48:15,580 --> 01:48:11,070
of time in our previous segment you want

2246
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:15,590
to go on with that this is a big topic

2247
01:48:22,630 --> 01:48:19,410
yes we are part of a greater dynamic I

2248
01:48:26,990 --> 01:48:22,640
have no question about that and within

2249
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:27,000
that greater dynamic we are individuals

2250
01:48:35,330 --> 01:48:31,530
that have our own trajectory so within

2251
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:35,340
the greater whole we exist as

2252
01:48:43,310 --> 01:48:41,010
individuals also and one of the things I

2253
01:48:46,730 --> 01:48:43,320
discovered in my research of near-death

2254
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:46,740
experiences is that there are clearly

2255
01:48:52,970 --> 01:48:50,610
four types of them there's certainly the

2256
01:48:57,260 --> 01:48:52,980
larger experience the greater pattern

2257
01:49:00,770 --> 01:48:57,270
yes yes yes but there are clearly types

2258
01:49:05,450 --> 01:49:00,780
of that pattern the initial that I call

2259
01:49:07,010 --> 01:49:05,460
the initial is just a few things like

2260
01:49:09,410 --> 01:49:07,020
the living dark or the loving

2261
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:09,420
nothingness or quick out-of-body trip or

2262
01:49:15,950 --> 01:49:13,650
just a greeter of sometimes children

2263
01:49:18,290 --> 01:49:15,960
have a lot of this so do adults but

2264
01:49:22,220 --> 01:49:18,300
especially children we have the

2265
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:22,230
unpleasant or hellish one out of seven

2266
01:49:32,270 --> 01:49:26,970
in my research base had this one we have

2267
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:32,280
the pleasant or heavenly one were the

2268
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:35,370
most familiar with the books the TV

2269
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:37,770
shows the documentaries and on and on

2270
01:49:43,580 --> 01:49:41,370
and on where in my research base none of

2271
01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:43,590
them have had that and then the

2272
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:47,520
transcendent now in the hellish and

2273
01:49:55,610 --> 01:49:50,250
heavenly that's where you find your life

2274
01:49:57,860 --> 01:49:55,620
reviews with a transcendent this one you

2275
01:49:58,690 --> 01:49:57,870
know the individual is chested apt to

2276
01:50:01,660 --> 01:49:58,700
Harper

2277
01:50:03,490 --> 01:50:01,670
rent or the universe as they are to wind

2278
01:50:07,900 --> 01:50:03,500
up in some kind of heavenly College

2279
01:50:12,580 --> 01:50:07,910
various elements one personal it rather

2280
01:50:17,140 --> 01:50:12,590
it has to do with the human family with

2281
01:50:21,540 --> 01:50:17,150
evolution with the universe itself how

2282
01:50:26,530 --> 01:50:21,550
it came to be so it is that broader

2283
01:50:29,950 --> 01:50:26,540
larger type of experience again that is

2284
01:50:34,290 --> 01:50:29,960
seldom very personal so those are the

2285
01:50:39,730 --> 01:50:34,300
four types of experience experiences and

2286
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:39,740
within that arrangement then then you do

2287
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:45,110
see very very much so that some people's

2288
01:50:53,260 --> 01:50:50,090
experience will wrap around what is

2289
01:50:56,980 --> 01:50:53,270
necessary for that individual at that

2290
01:50:59,710 --> 01:50:56,990
time in their life to pull it all

2291
01:51:02,290 --> 01:50:59,720
together to change their life transform

2292
01:51:04,750 --> 01:51:02,300
their life maybe bring more of the

2293
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:04,760
spiritual into their life more that

2294
01:51:13,150 --> 01:51:07,570
sense of God or Allah or the divine and

2295
01:51:16,780 --> 01:51:13,160
then with other people no

2296
01:51:19,390 --> 01:51:16,790
personalization at all a no idea of them

2297
01:51:24,190 --> 01:51:19,400
is a name or social security number and

2298
01:51:33,550 --> 01:51:24,200
rank and order but rather they is a soul

2299
01:51:39,150 --> 01:51:33,560
they as a spirit they as one with the

2300
01:51:42,780 --> 01:51:39,160
many so he you get that that broad

2301
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:42,790
concept that the near-death experience

2302
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:49,250
seems to address whatever is needed at

2303
01:51:56,860 --> 01:51:52,970
that point in time to that individual if

2304
01:51:59,640 --> 01:51:56,870
they don't need a lot of work on their

2305
01:52:02,920 --> 01:51:59,650
particular life at that point in time

2306
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:02,930
then they get the other kind they get

2307
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:05,930
whatever it is that they need at that

2308
01:52:12,219 --> 01:52:09,440
point and and this is not a hard fast

2309
01:52:15,759 --> 01:52:12,229
thing we can't come in

2310
01:52:17,859 --> 01:52:15,769
clinically and scientifically and say

2311
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:17,869
you know this is the way it's going to

2312
01:52:24,189 --> 01:52:20,239
be because that's the life you're that

2313
01:52:29,229 --> 01:52:24,199
you've lived because we have no way to

2314
01:52:32,739 --> 01:52:29,239
judge or discern what is really going on

2315
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:32,749
in depth at the deeper structures and

2316
01:52:38,770 --> 01:52:36,320
and deeper realities of that individual

2317
01:52:41,259 --> 01:52:38,780
however we can look at is the

2318
01:52:42,879 --> 01:52:41,269
superficial right the personality we

2319
01:52:46,739 --> 01:52:42,889
don't know what's going on in the deeper

2320
01:52:51,819 --> 01:52:46,749
levels and that's where the near-death

2321
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:51,829
experience Keynes sure is the people

2322
01:52:57,279 --> 01:52:53,690
levels and when you're talking about

2323
01:53:01,419 --> 01:52:57,289
near-death experiences you simply cannot

2324
01:53:04,299 --> 01:53:01,429
talk about experiences like this without

2325
01:53:06,819 --> 01:53:04,309
talking about the after-effects there is

2326
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:06,829
a pattern of physiological and

2327
01:53:13,390 --> 01:53:10,489
psychological after-effects these people

2328
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:13,400
come back change and in specific ways

2329
01:53:20,410 --> 01:53:17,360
and in physiological ways not everybody

2330
01:53:22,750 --> 01:53:20,420
but most of them the physiological

2331
01:53:26,649 --> 01:53:22,760
changes have a lot to do as a brain mind

2332
01:53:31,029 --> 01:53:26,659
assembly that is to say brain structure

2333
01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:31,039
and brain function change a little bit

2334
01:53:39,129 --> 01:53:35,209
with some Iraq with others the nervous

2335
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:39,139
system the digestive system alter and so

2336
01:53:45,939 --> 01:53:41,840
does skin sensitivity we're coming back

2337
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:45,949
with changes above and beyond the idea

2338
01:53:57,279 --> 01:53:48,530
that people come back more loving

2339
01:53:59,949 --> 01:53:57,289
generous and a real physiological that's

2340
01:54:01,600 --> 01:53:59,959
interesting I was not aware of that now

2341
01:54:02,709 --> 01:54:01,610
I wanted to ask one question here that

2342
01:54:05,020 --> 01:54:02,719
occurs to me listening to this

2343
01:54:06,339 --> 01:54:05,030
conversation implies here that the

2344
01:54:08,949 --> 01:54:06,349
personal undergoes a near-death

2345
01:54:10,719 --> 01:54:08,959
experience is chosen for that and has to

2346
01:54:15,279 --> 01:54:10,729
undergo changes it's not just you get

2347
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:15,289
sick and you die briefly because of the

2348
01:54:19,299 --> 01:54:17,690
condition you have not because of some

2349
01:54:21,459 --> 01:54:19,309
other cause and this implies another

2350
01:54:24,609 --> 01:54:21,469
cause it didn't just die because you

2351
01:54:25,630 --> 01:54:24,619
were sick you had to go away to be

2352
01:54:29,530 --> 01:54:25,640
rebuilt

2353
01:54:30,820 --> 01:54:29,540
and sent back well you know that's one

2354
01:54:35,890 --> 01:54:30,830
way of putting it

2355
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:35,900
I rather look at it this way that these

2356
01:54:45,490 --> 01:54:40,370
experiences are so impactful they are so

2357
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:45,500
real they are so dynamic that they

2358
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:48,490
change the physical body as well as

2359
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:52,730
personality and the basic pattern of the

2360
01:54:57,580 --> 01:54:55,130
personality became yours kind of saying

2361
01:54:58,480 --> 01:54:57,590
here that if they didn't have to undergo

2362
01:55:03,340 --> 01:54:58,490
a change

2363
01:55:07,390 --> 01:55:03,350
they wouldn't die that sort of like the

2364
01:55:10,270 --> 01:55:07,400
judgmental saying and and you know I'm

2365
01:55:12,850 --> 01:55:10,280
gonna back away from that because how

2366
01:55:16,930 --> 01:55:12,860
are we to judge we don't know all I can

2367
01:55:19,630 --> 01:55:16,940
share is that I saw this subtle pattern

2368
01:55:24,850 --> 01:55:19,640
happen again and again no I can't prove

2369
01:55:28,530 --> 01:55:24,860
it all I can do is submit to you my

2370
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:28,540
research and you decide for yourself

2371
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:31,490
yeah that also brings up something that

2372
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:34,250
I've heard associated with these types

2373
01:55:39,220 --> 01:55:36,110
of experiences from time to time and

2374
01:55:43,090 --> 01:55:39,230
that is being told that your work is not

2375
01:55:44,890 --> 01:55:43,100
yet done that you can't transit and go

2376
01:55:46,930 --> 01:55:44,900
to the next level or go to the other

2377
01:55:48,580 --> 01:55:46,940
side because you have to return because

2378
01:55:51,910 --> 01:55:48,590
there's something you've left undone

2379
01:55:54,150 --> 01:55:51,920
have you done any follow-up work with

2380
01:55:57,580 --> 01:55:54,160
people that have told you that they were

2381
01:55:59,610 --> 01:55:57,590
somehow their life had been their life's

2382
01:56:02,770 --> 01:55:59,620
goals or their life's purpose had been

2383
01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:02,780
it was not yet fulfilled and that they

2384
01:56:07,270 --> 01:56:05,150
had to return for a purpose whether

2385
01:56:09,070 --> 01:56:07,280
known or unknown have you done any

2386
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:09,080
follow-up work with people that

2387
01:56:19,390 --> 01:56:16,450
explained you'd have to be a trained

2388
01:56:23,770 --> 01:56:19,400
transpersonal hypnotherapist taking the

2389
01:56:27,130 --> 01:56:23,780
person's back into the soul level or

2390
01:56:29,950 --> 01:56:27,140
into other levels of life in order to be

2391
01:56:33,070 --> 01:56:29,960
able to ascertain something like that so

2392
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:33,080
you do it you can't make that kind of

2393
01:56:38,860 --> 01:56:35,840
statement you can only suppose and it

2394
01:56:39,580 --> 01:56:38,870
certainly sounds like that's true that

2395
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:39,590
there is a

2396
01:56:45,220 --> 01:56:42,650
finish business and and we do need to

2397
01:56:48,729 --> 01:56:45,230
come back and finish up our business or

2398
01:56:52,810 --> 01:56:48,739
sometimes there are certain missions or

2399
01:56:55,629 --> 01:56:52,820
jobs that we've chosen to do or someone

2400
01:56:58,600 --> 01:56:55,639
else has chosen us to do it or for some

2401
01:57:02,500 --> 01:56:58,610
reason we need to do it and we come back

2402
01:57:06,129 --> 01:57:02,510
and we do the job my case is certainly

2403
01:57:10,930 --> 01:57:06,139
in point here I never chose to be a

2404
01:57:14,020 --> 01:57:10,940
researcher I am stop and think who in

2405
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:14,030
their right mind would want to be a

2406
01:57:19,479 --> 01:57:17,119
researcher in a pioneering field we got

2407
01:57:21,010 --> 01:57:19,489
your brain about that one let me do I

2408
01:57:23,979 --> 01:57:21,020
got to do the break guys here we go

2409
01:57:26,290 --> 01:57:23,989
we have dr. PMH Atwater talking about

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near-death experiences with gene and

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Chris you're in the para cast

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near-death experiences with Gina and

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Chris on the para cast and Chris you're

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about to interject at the end of her

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last comments some further of your own

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well I was just saying that boy I know

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the feeling I did not ever think that I

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would be out in the field investigating

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paranormal activities and all the things

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that go bump in the night I thought I

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was going to be you know a musician or

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an artist or some sort of creative type

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not somebody that was interviewing

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thousands of people and and that's I I

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kind of feel for you because I think we

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both share that but I think Mike what my

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question was prior to this though was

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has anybody come back you know full of

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vim and vigor saying I was just told I

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need to come back because I have

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something important to do and it has any

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of your of your you know 4,000 people

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actually invented a new and better light

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bulb or I love the motivation that that

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you're implying here that people feel

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when they come back and give us some

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examples of how people like yourself

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have come back and then just had this

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whole new lease on life literally and

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and gone on to bigger and better things

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I would say easily tuned thirds or more

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I like that so this is typical it's not

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a typical it's

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certainly I'm a case in point Margaret

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fields King came back a healer she used

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to be a teacher and a 4h mother she came

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back a healer went to Africa and was

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healing and with the indigenous healers

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did some incredible things invented the

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result system of healing certainly we

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have Walter Russell but and then there

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was a fellow in Sweden I don't remember

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his name had an experience when he was

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about oh I don't know 10 or 12 and just

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downloaded all kinds of invention and

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then when he became older he went to

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school got his degree in engineering and

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and told everybody now he has the

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sheepskin to back up all of his

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inventions and he went on to invent all

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kinds of incredible things and he said

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every one of them he had gotten when he

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in his childhood near-death experience

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so he only went to school to to prove

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that he could do it so he could finally

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you know come out with all these things

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that he had had when he's like ten or

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twelve his near-death experience he had

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Mela Thomas Thomas Benedict who also

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came back in in Center one of the

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inventions that I saw in his studio

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years ago invented a glass cutting

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scissors with very little hand fatigue I

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got to see the scissors and you know as

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it went on there was a fellow in Canada

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who was shown the correct way to

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interpret the Bible and he spent the

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rest of his life in seminaries there

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talking to seminarians to educate them

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on the proper way to interpret the Bible

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we have people that have come forward

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with all kinds of music they were not

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musicians before we've got

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fellow who sold shoes and and came back

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singing Grand Opera at at various

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contests and went on to become an office

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dog now before they have this encounter

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could they sing no okay so basically I

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could die tomorrow and wake up and I'm

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doing good old-fashioned rock and roll

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or something maybe whatever is repressed

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or suppressed within the system or not

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developed in the system that seems to be

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enhanced and accelerated afterward so

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the seed of it is somehow in the

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individual to begin with whether they

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ever developed it or not or was

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interested in it or not and that is

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developed afterwards I was on my way to

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become a bank manager so obviously I had

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a little bit of that seed in my system

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boy boy you were saved well I don't know

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I was one of these kids with learning

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disabilities in the first grade I was

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the only kid in class who could see

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music hear numbers and smell color we

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now call that Stennis Teva or conjoined

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senses and I spent most of the first

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grade on a tall stool in front of the

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class and sometimes had to wear a

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conical hat that said dunce on it as an

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example of a bad child who told lies so

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that so the teachers perfume was

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turquoise

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my first grade was a nightmare but we

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won't go into that right now but it's

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that idea that somehow someway in at

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least in my opinion that there's a seed

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somehow in that individual that then

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accelerates expands and develops

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afterward and and that's that's very

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common also common is the personality

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tends to change or at least the way they

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talk the way they act

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their behavior does change and the

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families certainly is a testimony to

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this the bosses after health care

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providers the friends the relatives this

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person is different afterward seem to

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recall a newspaper article that I read

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here within the past few months of

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somebody having a near-death experience

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and coming back with a completely

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different accent from a different

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culture right that that occasionally

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happens to correct concept of gene

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coming back as a rock-and-roll star I'm

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having a hard time wrapping my head

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around that one we're talking about this

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lower level here guys we're not talking

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about the personality level you're

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trying to all tie this up as personality

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behavior

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what's certainly that apply but what

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we're looking at again are the deeper

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levels of the deeper realities of the

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individual so you know it's got to be

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the spiritual it's got to be the spirit

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it's got to believe in so I don't know

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what else to dye it - because you can't

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tie it to mom and dad and and the serial

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number or the social security number

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you just can't tie it to that it's

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deeper issues and it yell experiences

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will say over and over and over again

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this is a spiritual experience this is

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an experience that opens up the soul of

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the spiritual level the idea that that

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this world we live in is much bigger and

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more meaningful than we think and is run

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by laws above and beyond that of

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humankind but there is another force at

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work and it is Zak force that somehow

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touches the individual in these

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experiences or opens up greater

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realities to these people who have this

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kind of experience we have PMH Atwater

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the subject near death

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experiences with gene and Chris you're

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in the para cast

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hi this is Ted Phillips listening to the

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parrot cast and it's as good as it gets

2785
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believe me down to two more segments

2786
02:15:02,350 --> 02:14:59,050
with PMH Atwater talking about

2787
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:02,360
near-death experiences we're focusing on

2788
02:15:07,750 --> 02:15:04,370
a lot of things here about where people

2789
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:07,760
suddenly become dedicated to a total

2790
02:15:13,150 --> 02:15:10,000
profession different profession

2791
02:15:14,410 --> 02:15:13,160
different lifestyle all this as a result

2792
02:15:16,540 --> 02:15:14,420
of having one of these experiences

2793
02:15:19,230 --> 02:15:16,550
almost are very much conveying the

2794
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:19,240
possibility that they were meant to die

2795
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:22,970
briefly like you restart a computer is

2796
02:15:27,870 --> 02:15:24,560
that a way to compare it it's like the

2797
02:15:32,020 --> 02:15:27,880
computer I wouldn't say meant to die

2798
02:15:36,910 --> 02:15:32,030
that's such a judgmental term we have no

2799
02:15:40,300 --> 02:15:36,920
way to judge that meant to do a research

2800
02:15:43,870 --> 02:15:40,310
that they do die and they come back

2801
02:15:46,810 --> 02:15:43,880
changed and there certainly is that

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02:15:50,410 --> 02:15:46,820
element of unfinished business on the

2803
02:15:53,410 --> 02:15:50,420
soul level they come back to take care

2804
02:15:57,730 --> 02:15:53,420
of that but to say they were meant to

2805
02:16:00,520 --> 02:15:57,740
die that's kind of a spooky thing to say

2806
02:16:02,380 --> 02:16:00,530
so I'm going to back away from that I

2807
02:16:05,440 --> 02:16:02,390
was thinking more in the sense of doing

2808
02:16:07,900 --> 02:16:05,450
a restart or a reset oh yeah

2809
02:16:10,330 --> 02:16:07,910
I do over and now maybe that's the way

2810
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:10,340
it has to be done you know you could use

2811
02:16:18,070 --> 02:16:14,810
those terms I'm not sure what term you

2812
02:16:19,780 --> 02:16:18,080
could use but certainly the experiencer

2813
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:19,790
gets what they need whether they admit

2814
02:16:28,120 --> 02:16:23,450
it or not and most of them that I know

2815
02:16:30,430 --> 02:16:28,130
admit it and that somehow the soul is

2816
02:16:32,770 --> 02:16:30,440
involved here and that this was

2817
02:16:35,379 --> 02:16:32,780
appropriate and this was meaningful and

2818
02:16:39,070 --> 02:16:35,389
this was helpful that leads us to an

2819
02:16:40,839 --> 02:16:39,080
interesting area that that a field

2820
02:16:43,240 --> 02:16:40,849
investigator a field researcher has to

2821
02:16:48,610 --> 02:16:43,250
deal with from time to time now you've

2822
02:16:51,339 --> 02:16:48,620
had over 4,000 case studies and not over

2823
02:16:53,139 --> 02:16:51,349
nearly for nearly 4,000 then

2824
02:16:55,599 --> 02:16:53,149
and within those thousands of cases

2825
02:16:58,029 --> 02:16:55,609
obviously you've been able to discern

2826
02:17:01,809 --> 02:16:58,039
patterns you've been able to see trends

2827
02:17:04,540 --> 02:17:01,819
has anyone come to you and come to you

2828
02:17:06,189 --> 02:17:04,550
with a claim of an experience that

2829
02:17:07,899 --> 02:17:06,199
didn't conform to that and then you

2830
02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:07,909
later found out that perhaps they were

2831
02:17:13,479 --> 02:17:10,010
hoaxing you or or trying to pull the

2832
02:17:15,699 --> 02:17:13,489
wool over your eyes yeah I did I did run

2833
02:17:18,579 --> 02:17:15,709
into that certainly you can use your you

2834
02:17:21,339 --> 02:17:18,589
can usually pick out a hoaxer there's

2835
02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:21,349
something different about their eyes the

2836
02:17:26,649 --> 02:17:23,359
way they use their words their energy

2837
02:17:29,859 --> 02:17:26,659
you can usually pick them up pretty

2838
02:17:33,339 --> 02:17:29,869
quick it's a feeling kind of thing that

2839
02:17:35,919 --> 02:17:33,349
you just sense right away but you can do

2840
02:17:40,899 --> 02:17:35,929
fooled and I was fooled once that I know

2841
02:17:44,529 --> 02:17:40,909
of and the daughter wrote me years after

2842
02:17:46,859 --> 02:17:44,539
her mother had died and told me that her

2843
02:17:51,969 --> 02:17:46,869
mother had taken her experience and

2844
02:17:54,069 --> 02:17:51,979
claimed it as the mother's own and did

2845
02:17:56,109 --> 02:17:54,079
it for the attention that it was

2846
02:17:59,500 --> 02:17:56,119
actually the daughters experience and

2847
02:18:02,559 --> 02:17:59,510
she would not give me the name she said

2848
02:18:05,829 --> 02:18:02,569
you know I did you know I don't want to

2849
02:18:07,929 --> 02:18:05,839
give you my mother's name but I want you

2850
02:18:11,379 --> 02:18:07,939
to know that this happened and that you

2851
02:18:13,059 --> 02:18:11,389
were fooled so you know this has

2852
02:18:17,500 --> 02:18:13,069
happened a lot of people with a lot of

2853
02:18:21,449 --> 02:18:17,510
strange motivations out there but that

2854
02:18:26,169 --> 02:18:21,459
one I missed yeah you know these

2855
02:18:30,609 --> 02:18:26,179
experiences are so you know even if it's

2856
02:18:32,769 --> 02:18:30,619
just a simple one right look you know

2857
02:18:34,750 --> 02:18:32,779
like the initial experience where you're

2858
02:18:38,439 --> 02:18:34,760
met but right there living nothing in

2859
02:18:41,979 --> 02:18:38,449
notes of the friendly dark if it's

2860
02:18:44,519 --> 02:18:41,989
intense image you'll get that pattern of

2861
02:18:48,609 --> 02:18:44,529
physiological and psychological

2862
02:18:51,549 --> 02:18:48,619
after-effects so what I like to point

2863
02:18:56,079 --> 02:18:51,559
out to people is that it doesn't matter

2864
02:19:00,099 --> 02:18:56,089
how complex the experience is or how

2865
02:19:04,600 --> 02:19:00,109
much information you gained what matters

2866
02:19:10,709 --> 02:19:04,610
is how intense was it and it's that

2867
02:19:14,350 --> 02:19:10,719
intensity that that strikes down and

2868
02:19:17,530 --> 02:19:14,360
involves the deeper structures so again

2869
02:19:20,050 --> 02:19:17,540
it can be a simple experience or can be

2870
02:19:23,800 --> 02:19:20,060
one of these wrong and complex ones it

2871
02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:23,810
doesn't matter what matters is intensity

2872
02:19:29,709 --> 02:19:26,210
that's a really good point and it brings

2873
02:19:33,700 --> 02:19:29,719
up this particular question what is the

2874
02:19:35,919 --> 02:19:33,710
most memorable sort of out of the norm

2875
02:19:39,310 --> 02:19:35,929
intense experience that somebody has

2876
02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:39,320
brought back one that didn't conform to

2877
02:19:44,290 --> 02:19:41,570
what you have identified our trends and

2878
02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:44,300
patterns within these experiences and in

2879
02:19:52,511 --> 02:19:48,170
a deep there does seem to be a fairly

2880
02:19:54,670 --> 02:19:52,521
easily to discern pattern within the

2881
02:19:57,340 --> 02:19:54,680
four patterns that you Illustrated what

2882
02:19:59,410 --> 02:19:57,350
is the most intense intense experience

2883
02:20:02,170 --> 02:19:59,420
that you've encountered in all your case

2884
02:20:05,140 --> 02:20:02,180
studies well I want to say right now

2885
02:20:07,900 --> 02:20:05,150
it's it's one pattern the pattern is the

2886
02:20:10,690 --> 02:20:07,910
near-death experience what I found with

2887
02:20:13,540 --> 02:20:10,700
different types of that one pattern

2888
02:20:17,350 --> 02:20:13,550
there are many that don't conform to the

2889
02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:17,360
moody model that classical model is not

2890
02:20:25,960 --> 02:20:23,210
classical we now know for sure that the

2891
02:20:29,020 --> 02:20:25,970
tunnel effect is not a signature feature

2892
02:20:31,511 --> 02:20:29,030
there are not that many people who

2893
02:20:33,250 --> 02:20:31,521
experience a tunnel adult or child

2894
02:20:38,580 --> 02:20:33,260
anywhere in the world

2895
02:20:41,950 --> 02:20:38,590
so let's brush to one side this idea of

2896
02:20:44,500 --> 02:20:41,960
something that breaks the pattern I

2897
02:20:48,390 --> 02:20:44,510
haven't run across anything yet that

2898
02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:48,400
broke the pattern so the idea then

2899
02:20:54,880 --> 02:20:52,880
rather is what caught your attention and

2900
02:20:57,880 --> 02:20:54,890
I want to talk about one that's very

2901
02:21:01,120 --> 02:20:57,890
simple not one of these big complex ones

2902
02:21:03,610 --> 02:21:01,130
but it grabbed you this is a man this is

2903
02:21:07,180 --> 02:21:03,620
Portland Oregon this is late October

2904
02:21:10,170 --> 02:21:07,190
this is outside Portland in the sort of

2905
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:10,180
the hinterland and it's around midnight

2906
02:21:17,410 --> 02:21:13,760
there had been a little bit of a rain

2907
02:21:18,100 --> 02:21:17,420
and not much though but the temperature

2908
02:21:21,190 --> 02:21:18,110
had some

2909
02:21:24,041 --> 02:21:21,200
we dropped so it had created a condition

2910
02:21:25,600 --> 02:21:24,051
called black ice and I don't know if

2911
02:21:27,400 --> 02:21:25,610
you're familiar with that but we

2912
02:21:31,421 --> 02:21:27,410
Westerners are certainly familiar with

2913
02:21:34,240 --> 02:21:31,431
black ice where you the road is covered

2914
02:21:38,591 --> 02:21:34,250
with ice but you cannot see it and he

2915
02:21:41,020 --> 02:21:38,601
was traveling a hairpin turns traveling

2916
02:21:43,720 --> 02:21:41,030
faster than he should have been with

2917
02:21:46,060 --> 02:21:43,730
what with a black ice condition he did

2918
02:21:48,881 --> 02:21:46,070
not know it was black ice it was the

2919
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:48,891
dark of the Moon there were no other

2920
02:21:55,751 --> 02:21:52,610
houses around where he was traveling he

2921
02:22:00,490 --> 02:21:55,761
lost control of his car smashed into a

2922
02:22:03,190 --> 02:22:00,500
great tree he lost his right arm he

2923
02:22:06,461 --> 02:22:03,200
could not see and as near as he could

2924
02:22:09,011 --> 02:22:06,471
tell he was dead he floated up to the

2925
02:22:13,990 --> 02:22:09,021
top of the tree looked down at the

2926
02:22:17,530 --> 02:22:14,000
bloody twisted sight and that's when he

2927
02:22:19,390 --> 02:22:17,540
saw that his right arm was gone that he

2928
02:22:23,320 --> 02:22:19,400
couldn't see and there was blood

2929
02:22:26,261 --> 02:22:23,330
everywhere and his desire was to save to

2930
02:22:26,921 --> 02:22:26,271
save his body so he looked around for

2931
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:26,931
help

2932
02:22:34,660 --> 02:22:31,610
and a distance away on a bit of a hill

2933
02:22:37,720 --> 02:22:34,670
there was a two-story house with a light

2934
02:22:40,331 --> 02:22:37,730
on in the upper right corner of the

2935
02:22:44,680 --> 02:22:40,341
house how he got from the tree to the

2936
02:22:47,770 --> 02:22:44,690
house he does not know it seemed to be

2937
02:22:52,030 --> 02:22:47,780
like it floated there or somehow got

2938
02:22:55,270 --> 02:22:52,040
there and he and he looked inside and

2939
02:22:57,610 --> 02:22:55,280
inside was a man he yelled at the man

2940
02:22:59,980 --> 02:22:57,620
there's been an accident

2941
02:23:03,610 --> 02:22:59,990
called the police and he kept saying it

2942
02:23:07,230 --> 02:23:03,620
over and over again the police later on

2943
02:23:10,660 --> 02:23:07,240
it in interrogating the man in the house

2944
02:23:12,671 --> 02:23:10,670
said you know what happened why did you

2945
02:23:15,610 --> 02:23:12,681
even bother to look for an accident and

2946
02:23:18,190 --> 02:23:15,620
that guy said in his ears he kept

2947
02:23:21,551 --> 02:23:18,200
hearing a man yelling there's been an

2948
02:23:24,041 --> 02:23:21,561
accident called the police so without

2949
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question he grabbed it grabbed a

2950
02:23:30,461 --> 02:23:27,320
flashlight went down the house outside

2951
02:23:32,260 --> 02:23:30,471
the house me again to you know call call

2952
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the police then with the

2953
02:23:38,050 --> 02:23:35,450
with his flashlight Kenny and located

2954
02:23:40,290 --> 02:23:38,060
the accident and was there to flag down

2955
02:23:42,910 --> 02:23:40,300
the police and ambulance when they came

2956
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well two months later the guy is still

2957
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in the hospital and his sight came back

2958
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now he had been an artist a professional

2959
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artist right-handed so he took his left

2960
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hand because they could not reattach the

2961
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right one so he took his latest hand and

2962
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and he drew a picture of the accident

2963
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scene the police were called in the men

2964
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in the house were called and they looked

2965
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at the picture and they said it was as

2966
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if a photograph of the actual accident

2967
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scene oh boy we have PMH Atwater joining

2968
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gene and Chris for one more segment

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kicked in by an intruder with a single

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the door Sentinel is still holding

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door calm hi this is 10 Anderson have

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you ever wondered why banks stockbrokers

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investment advisors won't talk about

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gold IRAs they've been available since

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1986 yet the financial industry won't

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recognize the value of gold for your

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attire meant gold has outperformed paper

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investments yet no word about IRAs if

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you would like to have gold for your

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retirement call 866 to 237 don't get

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left behind by rising inflation and low

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you know the Constitution what the back

3018
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of your hand

3019
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you've read books listen to podcasts

3020
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attended lectures surfed websites and

3021
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watched videos you've made Liberty your

3022
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life's goal but something seems to be

3023
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missing stickers from Liberty stickers

3024
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calm exercise your freedom of speech

3025
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with the world's most dangerous bumper

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that's Liberty Snickers dot-com but wait

3028
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there's more

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you can buy Liberty stickers wholesale

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markets fairs outreach and more earn

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extra money promote freedom and spread

3036
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the word need custom stickers labels or

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decals for your organization or business

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the world's most dangerous stickers many

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Americans suffer from digestive problems

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often totally unaware they're not

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absorbing essential nutrients from foods

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and supplements dr. Peter Glidden is

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aware of the importance of healing a

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damage to digestive system now the

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product that I'm gonna talk about today

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Maki plus and it is a combination of a

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super fruit the Mackay berry and aloe

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vera juice now aloe vera is a very

3053
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interesting nutritional supplement to

3054
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talk about because aloe vera you know

3055
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it's the stuff that you put on your skin

3056
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if you get a burn and man it really

3057
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knocks down the pain the inflammation of

3058
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the burn and facilitates healing well

3059
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guess what it does the same thing

3060
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internally that it does externally to

3061
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burns to soothe and heal your digestive

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system order Maki plus today by calling

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seven three six nine six or on the web

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at fire your MD now calm

3067
02:28:55,251 --> 02:28:52,070
[Music]

3068
02:28:58,711 --> 02:28:55,261
this is a fascinating journey into

3069
02:29:01,470 --> 02:28:58,721
possible near-death experiences and the

3070
02:29:02,341 --> 02:29:01,480
consequences how people's lives have

3071
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:02,351
changed

3072
02:29:06,421 --> 02:29:04,570
usually I guess for the better right I

3073
02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:06,431
got the impression for most of what you

3074
02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:11,650
say okay in cases where things got worse

3075
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:13,870
we haven't dwell too much on that could

3076
02:29:22,801 --> 02:29:18,730
you maybe mention a case or two I can

3077
02:29:26,281 --> 02:29:22,811
say that where it seems to get worse are

3078
02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:26,291
those people especially those people had

3079
02:29:30,930 --> 02:29:28,570
frightening experiences but remember

3080
02:29:32,730 --> 02:29:30,940
that man in that Hall who talked about a

3081
02:29:35,761 --> 02:29:32,740
beautiful experiences being occurs

3082
02:29:41,881 --> 02:29:35,771
certainly with him what I've noticed

3083
02:29:45,560 --> 02:29:41,891
with these people who seem unable to

3084
02:29:48,180 --> 02:29:45,570
integrate their experience is over time

3085
02:29:52,350 --> 02:29:48,190
they seem to get kind of nervous and

3086
02:29:56,970 --> 02:29:52,360
edgy many go on to experience health

3087
02:30:01,051 --> 02:29:56,980
problems they just seem not to be happy

3088
02:30:02,820 --> 02:30:01,061
or satisfied with their lives and you

3089
02:30:05,491 --> 02:30:02,830
know I can't say that of everybody but I

3090
02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:05,501
can say that of most of them in my

3091
02:30:14,100 --> 02:30:11,410
research base they didn't have that kind

3092
02:30:15,841 --> 02:30:14,110
of satisfaction in their life those who

3093
02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:15,851
weren't able to integrate their

3094
02:30:24,831 --> 02:30:20,110
experience and went on to use it or

3095
02:30:27,480 --> 02:30:24,841
benefit from it those people even though

3096
02:30:30,360 --> 02:30:27,490
they might have horrendous problems

3097
02:30:33,991 --> 02:30:30,370
afterwards and then he did like divorces

3098
02:30:37,711 --> 02:30:34,001
losing jobs and you know being kicked

3099
02:30:42,781 --> 02:30:37,721
out of the house and so forth came to a

3100
02:30:45,631 --> 02:30:42,791
point where they found their life very

3101
02:30:49,970 --> 02:30:45,641
much better very much more comfortable

3102
02:30:53,281 --> 02:30:49,980
very much more lovable and many of them

3103
02:30:54,570 --> 02:30:53,291
went on and of course to go on in a

3104
02:30:56,400 --> 02:30:54,580
different job and

3105
02:30:59,940 --> 02:30:56,410
different place and a different kind of

3106
02:31:03,030 --> 02:30:59,950
life and we're able very much to profit

3107
02:31:05,220 --> 02:31:03,040
from their experience so you can't make

3108
02:31:09,540 --> 02:31:05,230
a broad statement here that everybody

3109
02:31:15,060 --> 02:31:09,550
profits or everybody suffers what you

3110
02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:15,070
can say is that if the person chooses to

3111
02:31:20,460 --> 02:31:18,010
learn from their experience and have

3112
02:31:24,630 --> 02:31:20,470
that experience speak to them in a

3113
02:31:29,130 --> 02:31:24,640
meaningful way those people go on then

3114
02:31:33,570 --> 02:31:29,140
to turn their life around and benefit

3115
02:31:35,670 --> 02:31:33,580
very much from it and others too I like

3116
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:35,680
to think that the research I've done

3117
02:31:41,540 --> 02:31:39,010
have helped other people and I certainly

3118
02:31:45,270 --> 02:31:41,550
did not do that research for myself I

3119
02:31:47,910 --> 02:31:45,280
did it Travis now this is obviously

3120
02:31:50,011 --> 02:31:47,920
considered this is the whole show was

3121
02:31:51,870 --> 02:31:50,021
all about the power cast we deal with

3122
02:31:54,450 --> 02:31:51,880
subjects that are sometimes regarded as

3123
02:31:57,720 --> 02:31:54,460
fringe so how does someone like you get

3124
02:32:00,780 --> 02:31:57,730
more mainstream science to look at

3125
02:32:04,980 --> 02:32:00,790
near-death experiences and the value and

3126
02:32:08,040 --> 02:32:04,990
the consequences of the changes well I

3127
02:32:14,940 --> 02:32:08,050
had the good sense to listen to a vision

3128
02:32:19,560 --> 02:32:14,950
I had before I married my husband Terry

3129
02:32:22,650 --> 02:32:19,570
Atwater and and that vision showed me

3130
02:32:26,430 --> 02:32:22,660
what my name should be so I went to

3131
02:32:30,060 --> 02:32:26,440
court and I changed my name to pm8

3132
02:32:35,220 --> 02:32:30,070
Atwater and that seemed at the kind a

3133
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:35,230
very stupid thing to do but later it

3134
02:32:43,740 --> 02:32:38,250
turned out to be a very wise thing to do

3135
02:32:47,700 --> 02:32:43,750
because my name was initials and not a

3136
02:32:55,460 --> 02:32:47,710
feminine name my work was considered

3137
02:32:58,620 --> 02:32:55,470
talked about and looked at and him spend

3138
02:33:01,950 --> 02:32:58,630
several my findings have have been

3139
02:33:04,620 --> 02:33:01,960
upheld in clinical studies I was in the

3140
02:33:09,110 --> 02:33:04,630
Dutch study the clinical perspective

3141
02:33:13,801 --> 02:33:09,120
study that was in Lancet medical

3142
02:33:18,540 --> 02:33:13,811
12:15 or 1:00 so I made it into Lancet

3143
02:33:21,170 --> 02:33:18,550
and yeah my work has been considered

3144
02:33:23,551 --> 02:33:21,180
still is and they're finding out now

3145
02:33:27,511 --> 02:33:23,561
that the work I have done on the

3146
02:33:30,750 --> 02:33:27,521
after-effects has turned out to be the

3147
02:33:33,440 --> 02:33:30,760
best in the field and I truly feel it's

3148
02:33:37,170 --> 02:33:33,450
because I did not have a feminine name

3149
02:33:41,220 --> 02:33:37,180
when my work came out that does make a

3150
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:41,230
difference right a little bit of a glass

3151
02:33:46,710 --> 02:33:45,010
ceiling yeah yeah unfortunate very

3152
02:33:50,131 --> 02:33:46,720
definitely if I don't have a feminine

3153
02:33:53,040 --> 02:33:50,141
name my work would have never been

3154
02:33:54,620 --> 02:33:53,050
considered and I can say that without

3155
02:33:57,120 --> 02:33:54,630
hesitation

3156
02:34:01,080 --> 02:33:57,130
okay well that works pretty good that

3157
02:34:03,420 --> 02:34:01,090
works pretty good all right so tell our

3158
02:34:04,770 --> 02:34:03,430
listeners about these two books that

3159
02:34:07,170 --> 02:34:04,780
we've been discussing through the show

3160
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:07,180
the book of near-death experiences and

3161
02:34:11,070 --> 02:34:09,280
of course near-death experiences the

3162
02:34:13,051 --> 02:34:11,080
rest of the story and a couple of

3163
02:34:15,330 --> 02:34:13,061
minutes or less what are they going to

3164
02:34:17,610 --> 02:34:15,340
discover I'm telling you to cite you

3165
02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:17,620
know a 5,000 page book in three seconds

3166
02:34:23,341 --> 02:34:20,250
yeah well the big book of near-death

3167
02:34:26,761 --> 02:34:23,351
experiences catches everybody up with

3168
02:34:29,460 --> 02:34:26,771
worldwide research so yes I talk about

3169
02:34:31,920 --> 02:34:29,470
my own research in the book but mostly

3170
02:34:35,430 --> 02:34:31,930
what's going on in the world in the

3171
02:34:38,790 --> 02:34:35,440
different countries and where we are now

3172
02:34:42,810 --> 02:34:38,800
in research near-death experiences the

3173
02:34:47,490 --> 02:34:42,820
rest of the story is there's my research

3174
02:34:52,830 --> 02:34:47,500
and I talk about things in that book I

3175
02:34:54,660 --> 02:34:52,840
could never talk about before and the

3176
02:34:56,400 --> 02:34:54,670
second half of the book is about

3177
02:34:59,460 --> 02:34:56,410
threshold experiences

3178
02:35:01,620 --> 02:34:59,470
I truly believe on the basis of my

3179
02:35:04,410 --> 02:35:01,630
research but the near-death experience

3180
02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:04,420
is not any kind of anomaly but is rather

3181
02:35:09,570 --> 02:35:06,720
part of the larger genre of

3182
02:35:12,030 --> 02:35:09,580
transformations of consciousness they

3183
02:35:16,500 --> 02:35:12,040
have the same or similar after-effects

3184
02:35:18,570 --> 02:35:16,510
and in the book I go on to show what

3185
02:35:21,450 --> 02:35:18,580
near that's of what transformations of

3186
02:35:22,610 --> 02:35:21,460
consciousness are why we have them and

3187
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:22,620
where they'd be

3188
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:27,760
all right what kind of reception to get

3189
02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:30,010
to your books in terms of other people's

3190
02:35:37,220 --> 02:35:32,650
experiences they then feel compelled to

3191
02:35:41,761 --> 02:35:37,230
write to you about this some do some do

3192
02:35:46,011 --> 02:35:41,771
yes do you get people who criticize you

3193
02:35:52,350 --> 02:35:46,021
saying why are you doing this Oh

3194
02:35:54,631 --> 02:35:52,360
criticism is legion yes I have been

3195
02:35:58,440 --> 02:35:54,641
slapped I have been threatened with

3196
02:36:04,440 --> 02:35:58,450
lawsuits I have been cursed I have been

3197
02:36:09,660 --> 02:36:04,450
yelled at yeah you name it you name it

3198
02:36:12,570 --> 02:36:09,670
I've gotten it and it was very hard to

3199
02:36:14,730 --> 02:36:12,580
take for a while and I went through a

3200
02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:14,740
long period of depression because of it

3201
02:36:23,700 --> 02:36:18,610
and I came out of the depression no

3202
02:36:27,030 --> 02:36:23,710
vision no words just the desire the

3203
02:36:29,850 --> 02:36:27,040
feeling in my heart to do more and do it

3204
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better and that's exactly what I did and

3205
02:36:34,980 --> 02:36:32,290
for the most part I've outlived most of

3206
02:36:37,790 --> 02:36:34,990
my critics well that's certainly

3207
02:36:40,430 --> 02:36:37,800
something to boast unless they come back

3208
02:36:43,740 --> 02:36:40,440
back out there a near-death experience

3209
02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:43,750
yeah well you know I've done a lot of

3210
02:36:50,820 --> 02:36:47,920
work guys and I did it for others and

3211
02:36:53,881 --> 02:36:50,830
now I can walk on and my latest book

3212
02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:53,891
that just came out last week and it's

3213
02:36:58,770 --> 02:36:57,130
called children of the fifth world you

3214
02:37:04,160 --> 02:36:58,780
know one of the conundrums I went into

3215
02:37:05,850 --> 02:37:04,170
is children being born now match

3216
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:05,860
children who've gone through a

3217
02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:07,210
near-death experience

3218
02:37:15,480 --> 02:37:11,530
so my curiosity was why the why the

3219
02:37:17,910 --> 02:37:15,490
match and and so this this book is my

3220
02:37:20,011 --> 02:37:17,920
answer children of the fifth world where

3221
02:37:23,070 --> 02:37:20,021
I talk about genetics evolution of the

3222
02:37:25,020 --> 02:37:23,080
human race the new kids and on and on

3223
02:37:28,140 --> 02:37:25,030
and on on and on where can our listeners

3224
02:37:32,610 --> 02:37:28,150
find more about your stuff my website is

3225
02:37:36,390 --> 02:37:32,620
just my name com so it's wwwp am h at

3226
02:37:41,070 --> 02:37:36,400
water calm i have a free

3227
02:37:43,831 --> 02:37:41,080
monthly newsletter so you can sign up on

3228
02:37:47,450 --> 02:37:43,841
my website for my news Rider there is an

3229
02:37:51,060 --> 02:37:47,460
archive there so you can look up past

3230
02:37:56,301 --> 02:37:51,070
newsletters I allow myself to talk about

3231
02:37:59,551 --> 02:37:56,311
whatever I feel is necessary or helpful

3232
02:38:00,841 --> 02:37:59,561
helpful at the moment so you never know

3233
02:38:03,150 --> 02:38:00,851
what's going to be in my newsletters

3234
02:38:04,890 --> 02:38:03,160
well look forward to it Chris O'Brien

3235
02:38:08,131 --> 02:38:04,900
tell our listeners where they can find

3236
02:38:09,990 --> 02:38:08,141
more of your stuff well I think we all

3237
02:38:13,470 --> 02:38:10,000
agree we live on a strange planet and

3238
02:38:16,230 --> 02:38:13,480
it's ours vanes planet calm right on you

3239
02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:16,240
can find us by the way on Twitter we're

3240
02:38:21,121 --> 02:38:19,120
known as the power cast yes we are on

3241
02:38:22,740 --> 02:38:21,131
the social networks even though we're

3242
02:38:25,801 --> 02:38:22,750
very unsociable loose I'm not very

3243
02:38:29,551 --> 02:38:25,811
sociable that's the power cast we also

3244
02:38:31,381 --> 02:38:29,561
have actually to power cast fan clubs on

3245
02:38:34,621 --> 02:38:31,391
Facebook so waiting for somebody to

3246
02:38:36,180 --> 02:38:34,631
guide me and tell me how to combine them

3247
02:38:37,921 --> 02:38:36,190
into one if there's even a way to do

3248
02:38:40,621 --> 02:38:37,931
that I guess you can get stuff on

3249
02:38:42,541 --> 02:38:40,631
Facebook you can never get it off PMH

3250
02:38:55,149 --> 02:38:42,551
Atwater thank you so much for joining us

3251
02:39:01,700 --> 02:38:58,670
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3252
02:39:04,570 --> 02:39:01,710
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3253
02:39:08,300 --> 02:39:04,580
presentation of making the impossible